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The counter argument to that is well designed modern cars have great info-tainment systems which get regular updates. My Tesla gets regular software updates, has upgradable hardware, and won't be subject to these kinds of issues for decades. Old cars encouraged exchanging and needed aftermarket parts because they didn't care or try, so the products were low-quality and often failed.

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> My Tesla gets regular software updates, has upgradable hardware, and won't be subject to these kinds of issues for decades.

Teslas from four years ago with Intel Atom processors and HW3 are already getting different and lesser updates than new Teslas, without any hardware upgrade plan in place.

A Tesla you buy right now is running HW4 which is inferior to current Cybercabs and HW5 has already been announced.

Every new car on the planet has better hardware than the previous generation car.

Except for maybe the '58 Thunderbird, but that was rectified in '61 in my opinion.

What? No they don’t, the build quality of most Western cars has dropped sharply over the past decade.

My Tesla and it's satisfaction ratings disagree.

Legacy automakers are still using the "ship it and forget it" approach. If I want my 2023 Hyundai to have the same features as a 2025 (manual battery preconditioning, Google Maps directions on HUD, wireless Android Auto, etc), I need to root the head unit and install a bunch of vibe coded packages from randos on GitHub.

Although to be fair the vibecoded packages are probably higher quality than what Hyundai would've shipped.

ioniq 5? The 2023 didn't have manual battery preconditioning?

Correct. Without root, the only way to heat the battery was if you use the cars built in nav to get directions to a fast charger

The problems being:

1. It didn't always recognize a destination as a fast charger

2. The built in nav is missing recently opened fast chargers

3. It only does this if you have the "preconditioning" setting enabled, but the car has a bug where if you use the (maybe only US version) Hyundai app to change the AC or DC charge limits it unchecks that setting.

4. I prefer Google Maps to the built in nav

Ah, I have an Equinox EV and it will automatically precondition based on the on-board maps, which, in my case, is Google Maps. I don't have the luxury of Android Auto or Carplay unless I jump through some hoops and self-publish an app in the Play Store. And even then it is janky.

Even so, I have a button in the battery settings which can start the preconditioning whenever I want to. It's been a fantastic car, but I am envious of your DCFC capabilities. But not of your ICCU. :-)

> well designed modern cars have great info-tainment systems which get regular updates. My Tesla gets regular software updates

And tracks you everwhere you go, resulting in that data being available to hackers, marketers, and any sleazeball that wants to extort you by suing you.

Not unique to tesla, of course, but a property of all those 'well designed modern cars'.

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