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It could be worse. There's a chance they succeed.

I'm pretty sure that the worst things will not come from AI/tech, but from other things – education freefall, population crisis, pension system collapses in Europe etc. If at all, AI and the current situation in tech is one of last false hopes to ignore all this.

What is education free fall?

China is ready to step in with millions of PhD-level graduates.

Well if everyone starts just asking the LLM to write their essay and ask it for the answers on their math homework...are they really learning anything?

AI is going to be a driving force behind it if it begins to work. What do you think the results of most humans suddenly becoming economically irrelevant will be?

Keep in mind that today, if essential workers go on strike, those in power have to listen. What happens if people on UBI refuse to... something? Especially in a world of increasingly automated policing and surveillance?

When people on UBI refuse to not riot - see France.

Yes, why do you think there's a massive investment into police tech today? The bets on what the future will look like are getting placed.

Uncensored local AI + kitchen chemistry + 1 million discontents.

I think the humans still have quite a chance to overthrow a police state tyranny.

If it was that simple someone would have already done it. Even in places like the USA, attempted political assassinations are very rare.

But what you say also gives us a path back to economic relevance: you can make money by selling policing equipment to increasingly paranoid states. They'll never be satisfied with what they already have. It doesn't even have to be a useful product, it just has to satisfy their paranoia while also fueling it.

Sounds like a great future where everyone prospers.

> What do you think the results of most humans suddenly becoming economically irrelevant will be?

Interesting times.

If Ai works there is no reason there has to be a pension system collapse. I think the problem will be complexity. Ai will allow such complex systems that fewer and fewer people will be able to maintain the systems because the complexity will be so high. We'll need to plan for what it looks like that people with IQs less than 145 won't be productive in any meaningful sense of the word.

High intelligence is overrated. Medieval knights didn't dominate the battlefield because they had the potential to become the best fighters. They dominated because they had access to weapons, armor, and horses, and because their social status and wealth let them focus on combat training.

Anyone who truly buys into that I pity. But it's sure a useful line to help sell the magic.

Well, either it's going to fail or the trillions going into finding breakthroughs are going to find breakthroughs. How much gasoline do you want to give arsonists, even if at the moment they're only pouring it onto concrete?

I would like to take away the gasoline before they figure out that wood burns better.

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