Ask HN: AI isn't intelligent :/ what is intelligence?
Let's define intelligence, is it observer intelligence that we mean when talking about AGI? Every thought counts.
Let's define intelligence, is it observer intelligence that we mean when talking about AGI? Every thought counts.
In my view, language models certainly exhibit a form of intelligence. Judging by the results, they grasp my input—or rather, my intent—and adapt their decisions based on dynamic input from various tools to address problems for which the solutions are not pre-programmed. I consider that a form of intelligence.
A completely different question, however, concerns consciousness, needs, and emotions. A language model doesn't feel a sense of satisfaction upon completing a task; it simply asks if there is anything else it can do or you just open a new prompt.
Do you consider yourself intelligent, and did you derive everything you know from first principles or are you just mirroring the cumulative subject matter that you've been taught and read? if a black box that can mimic that, is that intelligent.
Curiosity and Creativity is what sets apart humans from machines, not an output that depends on the corpus that has been fed.
Neither. There are other options.
I derived some things I know from first principles, and I sometimes mirror the cumulative subject matter that I've been taught and read.
ig we need to introduce imagination/dreaming/sleeping in them where they can learn from themselves
I feel building metacognition into current architectures might be what gets us to AGI
While otherwise unattended, the billiard ball only has metadata about its original color, but is otherwise every color and no color (to us). The physics are only computed separate from maximal energy conservation.
And your brain is just water and fat conducting electrical signals. Also, modern AI doesn't mirror the training dataset, that's not how LLMs work, it's only true for the initial pretraining phase. But that's besides the point.
What matters is what it can and can't do. Whether you label it as intelligence or not is pretty inconsequential long term.
It's a religious argument, a matter of faith. You can't argue logic with faith. They'll just call you a fool and a Luddite, waste your time demanding strict definitions they themselves are never required to make and simplistic false equivalences between humans and AI ("but humans also x") because they believe you're a simpleton for not grasping what they consider self-evident and obvious, that all of your objections come from a place of fear and primitive superstition.
You're just wasting your time. Put on some lofi, make some art and leave them be.
some say its a new species XD