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Grok had the potential of being the #1 LLM if they actually went through with Elons original promise of an "uncensored model". Meaning no guardrails, it does what you tell it, no matter what. Sadly Grok is even more restricted than even OpenAI's models, and despite being marketed as "edgy and ruthless" it is THE MOST politically correct model on the market. ChatGPT or Claude will gladly go along with religious or nationality based roleplay, while Grok outright refuses. Oh and you can't even use it for any pentesting whatsoever because a) it's far worse than the competition b) it completely refuses to even LOOK at low level code.

But this goes along with Elons same promises for X; "X will support free speech" etc even though it's trivial to get banned for the most pointless things.

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> if they actually went through with Elons original promise of an "uncensored model". Meaning no guardrails, it does what you tell it, no matter what.

When will HNers realize that this is a fever dream? This is an edgy teenager's interpretation of "good".

The second someone uses a frontier model to attack other entities or hurt innocent people it will get (rightfully) shut down by the government.

We already saw this with the Fable export controls (and no one had even used these models offensively).

Open models will reach the same fate once the gov't realizes they are good enough. They will just ban weight hosting, require safeguards for any model routers that accept US payment, and embargo anyone that doesn't do these things.

There is a reason we don't let everyone in the world own RPGs.

There are multiple problems:

1. The censoring goes much further than refuting to participate in a felony.

2. The censoring is done by private companies outside the democratic process.

3. Censoring requires a single source of truth. Somone who has then the power to decide what is true. Also most people will blindlessly beliefe everything an LLM says.

No company will be able to get away with offering a completely unconstrained commercial model. The legal risk and pushback from governments is too high.

No guardrails? So, what? Someone can get grok servers to attack critical infrastructure out of boredom? Take down a hospital network during an emergency or something? There was never a world where musk and co were going to take that risk.

And people thought swatting was bad! Just imagine that jfc

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