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I can't help but think of the dad who was investigated by the FBI for having pictures he took to show his kid's doctor.

Are parents going to be arrested for pictures of their kids in the bathtub? Or at least are they going to be blurred?

Even without that kind of false positive, with every phone running the check on every image false positives on perfectly normal images will be extremely common.

I occasionally use the Civitai.com to generate realistic images, and due to US regulators jawboning payment processors, they've put in strict filters. I've been using it for G-rated images, but they often get false positive for much worse ratings. I generated an image of a portrait of a couple at the beech, with a man in board shorts and a fully clothed woman, and it rated it XXX. One image of fully clothed people didn't even get a rating and was automatically removed as a "terms of service violation".

Probably. The government just made couples who record face sitting, without distributing, for their own use, sex offenders.

edit: But we live in a country where everything is illegal but rarely anyone is arrested for it so that's somehow ok /s

(Muffled) Oh no

I think someone needs to inform "bothers" that he's super-shadowbanned.

A regular shadowban only requires one vouch for a user's comments to be revived. The comment seemed reasonable so I vouched for it, but it is still dead. That means they have somehow hit the second-level shadowban where your comments are permanently dead no matter what.

Honestly, doctors need training about what they should or should not ask parents for. When my daughter was a month old her GP asked me to take photos of her diaper rash and email them in. "Uh no, not going to do that."

No, we should instead stop sexualing children. And we should ban this kind of mass surveillance.

They should be able to ask for that in a secure manner with security and retention controls and guardrails for how that data is accessed. In other words, email is not ideal.

Or, if your time and money allows it, deny that option and take your kid into the doctor in person.

Is the concern the doctor, or someone in their office misusing the pictures? Or is it the fear of having such an image on your phone or sent over the internet at all? Or is the concern that the very concept of such an image being recorded is morally wrong? Or is it something else?

I think the most reasonable concern would be having the image sent over the internet. I wouldn't be afraid of anybody in their office misusing the picture because they're trained and it's just another day in the office for them. Body parts are body parts, it shouldn't be morally wrong because of where the photo is, I think that's problematic thinking in my opinion.

Real question, why not? It seems like a reasonable request barring needing to go into the office. My comms and images with our pediatricians are through their app (not email), which they constantly remind us is under strict HIPAA compliance.

Because it's not worth losing your Gmail account or having to explain to everyone you meet that no, you're not a pedophile, and you weren't "caught with CSAM," it was just an over-zealous prosecutor responding to an automated report and a misunderstanding about some photos the doctor requested, and anyway that case was thrown out...

What's the problem with that? If you mean the channel, unencrypted email, then maybe I agree to some extent. If you mean taking pictures of children for the purpose of diagnosis I really don't follow.

Your phone and your email provider are both going to ban you if you do this.

> Are parents going to be arrested for pictures of their kids in the bathtub?

No. Because this magical new software will prevent such pictures.

We both know that if it's not built in straight away, it will be upgraded to report you without even notifying you of the fact. Exactly how the Apple csam detection system was supposed to work before apple backed off - if a picture was deemed csam your phone would automatically report you without telling you about it.

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