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The problem is also with the creator. You learn nothing when AI produces things for you. When it's art, to each their own, I guess.

But when I ask my realtor questions, he doesn't know anything. I get the same answers by typing into ChatGPT.

When I ask the Claude team at work about why this or that, they don't have a clue. They "will get back to me", which means they'll forward the question to Claude and Claude will output another 500-words email with a lot of things that are obvious and not part of the question, another couple of assumptions that are plainly false, and in the middle of it, sometimes, yes, an interesting insight. But the insight doesn't come from the people sending the email, they didn't produce it, they don't see it, and they never act on it.

This is all just exhausting.

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> But when I ask my realtor questions, he doesn't know anything. I get the same answers by typing into ChatGPT.

Not going to comment on your workplace specifically, but I’ve found this to be an issue with other industries like real estate long before ChatGPT were a thing.

The problem is the people who pickup the phone, greet you at the shop door, or take the photos, they’re the lowest paid juniors and thus know nothing.

So in most industries, you were always lucky to get through to someone with knowledge on the first attempt.

>someone with knowledge

The problem with AI is that "someone" may not exist.

That's highly unlikely because then the company wouldn't exist. At some point in a (to use our example: a real estate business) you are going to need skilled professionals.

I think the bigger risk is what happens when they retire if we are not training the next generation of professionals.

>At some point in a (to use our example: a real estate business) you are going to need skilled professionals.

This is exactly what we were saying with programming during early day of LLM. But that does not stop people from doing 100% vibe-coded projects.

Omarchy is one example, just ask the "developer" how stuff works in detail, without using AI, can they answer ?

Here are they contacts: https://omarchy.org/teams/

You can try asking.

High chance i will just talk to a meat proxy.

The only way for them to prove themself to the mass is a live coding interview session, without AI of course

> Behind it all is the Omarchy Doctrine: ten principles for...

That's ridiculous... Let's vibe code everything, but with a doctrine and principles!

If I'm going to do vibe coding, I don't need principles. No rules! And no future.

> This is exactly what we were saying with programming during early day of LLM.

Yes I know. I was there too. ;)

> But that does not stop people from doing 100% vibe-coded projects.

And why should it? Let people "code" however they want to "code". Just like some people will find creative ways to play the guitar while others will just play covers.

By the way, you haven't addressed the core point posed: if people like AI output then is it still "slop" (in response to comments where people describe all AI output as "slop")

Well, people also like junk food, does it mean it's not junk food anymore ?

To me AI generated content is exactly like that. Cheap, fast and easy access.

It's fine for occasional consumption, and in some setting it's definitely not suitable to be served

That's a really eloquent way of putting it. I like that.

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