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Actual document: https://ethereum.org/foundation/mandate/

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It also links to this pdf version, which has the pictures https://ethereum.foundation/ef-mandate.pdf

Wow, this is actually amazing. A lot of art in here.

It looks like a pretty decent layout for an RPG manual, but not for a serious document I'd expect to see at work.

Yeah, they missed their calling. Should have gone into ttrpg design instead.

IMO, this means we should change what we should expect to see in work environments. I'd love to see bold vision and art become the norm.

I guess art is subjective and people are into different styles, but to me, this just looks juvenile.

Man's maturity: to have regained the seriousness that he had as a child at play.

I think it would be much less of a problem if there was an explicit, clear delineation between the legal text and the art. The HTML version is much worse in this regard as well: the license in question reads like part of the text of the document (though the meaning it has in that context is quite ambiguous).

I'd love to see more work documents like this, or that at least aren't boring.

That said, a lawyer really should've reviewed it and told them a contract isn't the place for jokes.

I kind of want my work documents to have a single shared style, so that it's easy to parse when I'm looking for something specific.

Maybe it's just because I'm in my 40s, but I want my job to be boring.

It definitely gives 'cult manifesto' vibes

Is this document sincere or just AI generated and dressed up in something that people are meant to relate to...?

wtf is that, cant be real

This reminds me of anyone who went from normal life with normal funds to extreme wealth at a young age, not surprising, this is just the nerd version of rappers / ball players / young actors etc going through their own rendition of this.

It’s a cult, or at least, the leadership is trying to turn it into one. Cults have done weirder stuff, up to and including actual suicide.

39 members of Heaven’s Gate drank phenobarbital and died, believing this would allow them to escape Earth on the Hale-Bopp comet.

900 members of the People’s Temple (Jim Jones) drank cyanide-laced koolaid (actually FlavorAid) and died. That’s where the phrase “drink the koolaid” came from.

OK, but there's a lot of artwork in here: the opening-page image has lines like WE ARE ALL ONE IN LOVE -- is anyone taking this text too for a legal commitment?

Added: oh, the seppuku is in the HTML version without art, though you have to click to make it visible. Retracted.

milady on hackernews lmao

Interesting, it's still there (end of Section III), though sadly without the winking anime girl and yellow cats.

"We cannot force hard forks or protocol changes. We are opinionated only so as to advocate and propose what’s best for the mission."

Lol, did the perpetrators commit seppuku after the illegitimate DAO fork?

"What's best for the mission" means making sure they don't lose money, obviously.

Wow, it's weird to think that people can be so proud of their terrible ideas. To go so far as to post it on their own website. Project 2025 was published this same way.

I thought the "seppuku" line was hyperbole, but there it is in black and white. You can jump directly to it with a Ctrl+F.

Everyone thinks their ideas are brilliant and that the ideas that run contrary to theirs are terrible. Your comment is tantamount to saying "I disagree with these ideas".

I agree with your sentiment, but something this big should have been run through a committee of not-yes-men before publishing. I feel like honest feedback would have stopped this.

And then it would have been as lame as every other document, and we wouldn't be talking about it.

I know there are people who believe there is no such thing as bad publicity and that it is better to be remembered as a monster than forgotten, but not me.

Monster? What are you talking about?

this is not yet another document, rather a contract with all the legal baggage that comes along with that - like this lawsuit.

That is not true. Other people can have good ideas, bad ideas, kind of bad ideas, very bad ideas, terrible ideas and off the chart stupid ideas.

So, no the comment is not tantamount to saying "I disagree with these ideas". It is possible to disagree with an idea that is not horribly bad. It is possible to disagree with an idea that is quite smart, just with a trade off I dont prefer.

Would you say there's a correlation between how strongly you disagree with an idea and how terrible that idea is?

If you equate terrible with bad. Since most ideas at the far end of the scale are both emotional and the means to an outcome you feel very strongly about, yes,

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