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"Also, for those that are curious: the total cost of running the Deepseek model on OpenRouter was 22 cents. Yes, $0.22. You don’t need an expensive subscription or sell your soul to Altman or Amodei."

It feels like for RE work, Chinese models are currently the only ones that actually let you do that, because the US ones want a healthy subscription plan or an government/enterprise customer.

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OpenAI Daybreak Blue is essentially a rubber stamp process for individuals, I hd no problem getting approved as Joe Rando.

But it's charged at an even higher rate.

No it isn’t, Daybreak Blue is charged at the same rate as GPT-5.6 Sol. You’re thinking of Daybreak Red, which is a lot more expensive.

Doesn't that still require Persona face verification? They won't need a name to find you then.

Yeah sorry I should be more clear - you do have to prove identity, "joe rando" here was only to imply I'm not a security researcher at some org. I'm just a guy with a gmail account, a valid US drivers license, and two FIDO2 keys (which they'll sell you at a discount if you need).

I did RE of two Xiaomi cameras with Opus 5.5 with zero refusals, he even connected them to frigate and set up everything I needed for local recording. And I just used the $20 subscription that I already used for other stuff, so it was effectively free work.

The question is WHEN did you do that, because Anthropic is known to lately cut off users from RE work when it makes a lot of fuss in the media about their models being used to uncover spyware in smart TVs or to crack old videogames for piracy.

And that's what happened here; Anthropic balks, open weights come to the rescue

I recently patched the anti-cheat out of a game that prevented it from running on Linux with Sol 6.1.

I wouldn't have had to do this if game studios weren't hell bent on excluding people who expect to control their computers.

I am STILL actively (daily) doing RE of a famous 2000's EA/Maxis games, with Opus 5.5, zero refusal.

What language are you using in your prompts to bypass that?

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