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Mercedes-Benz halts German investments as plant closures loom

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27 pointsBetelbuddy11 comments

The car industry is holding up that whole country, so what does this mean for the country

High energy input costs and excessive government regulations don’t help

Don't worry, car companies in Germany are immune to regulations. They're that country's version of cartels.

People on the cusp of rich always regret buying a Benz, unreliable and expensive to repair. I have no idea how so many phd working over there can’t make a good car at a reasonable price.

You can get an electric MB (CLA) for a very reasonable price compared to other usual maybe more mundane car brands at least where I live. Cannot say if they are good or bad because new cars are just too expensive for me anyway.

I drove one of those as a rental car for a few days. A 2026 CLA 250+ model. The software is awful, which makes the whole car annoying to use.

Inconsistent UI, bad ergonomics, laggy display. It stutters when you move the map around, buttons look different in different parts of the system, and the steering wheel has 20+ buttons.

Things like volume or cruise control speed adjust are touch/swipe motions over flat plastic on the steering wheel. No tactile feedback, so you never end up at the speed that you wanted without 3 attempts.

And their driver assist function gets at least half of the speed signs wrong. Not just a few like most cars but half. Even in inconsistent ways where the display will show a "higway" icon so it has seen the sign, and then remain at 50km/h for no reason instead of showing 130.

The model I drove didn't have lane keeping or auto steer, but still beeped at me once in a while to keep my hands on the wheel even though I had them there. Probably I didn't show enough steering input, but why? Without lane keeping what's the point of that warning?

This car to me felt like the people who design these things never drive one.

Nobody buys a mercedes because it has a reasonable price

Depends where you are. Last time I was in Germany, every taxicab was a Mercedes.

They can when they want to. The W124 is still one of the most bulletproof vehicle families ever made.

Worst mismanaged brand in the car making world if you ask me.

Mercedes was the aspirational brand for professionals: 50+ years old doctors and lawyers looking for a solid and reliable premium car for grown ups.

Then the disaster of a CEO that looked at it and said: we want to bring the average age of the Mercedes Benz buyer 10 years down to early 40s.

Mercedes became younger and sportier, needlessly cornering itself in the same niche of Audi and BMW at home alone.

Car interiors became tacky as entering a sauna or something. Reliability, what it was known for went down.

It's like Mercedes Benz completely does not understand its own brand.

And the SL Mercedes is s clear sign of it. 200k of a car that screams "this guy is clueless why didn't he got a 911 instead". And of course Porsche sells tons more in that gran turismo price range, you see tons of them, I swear I saw like a handful of those SLs.

Top Gear's influence in the late 2000's and early 2010's can't be overstated. Even if Merc weren't directly chasing it, they were trying to maintain in an industry that was.

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