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That's funny, I count about 20 Apollo program launches before anyone went to the moon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Apollo_missions

And of course Apollo 1 incinerated it's entire crew.

Seems like you're only aware of the highly publicized successes and not the difficult development history.

What else might you be unaware of?

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Peace to the men and families of Apollo 1.

Sorry Apollo 1, 4, 5 and 6 were unmanned, 7 got men to LEO, 8 orbitted the moon and 9 landed Neil and Buzz.

Starship is up to 15 and is not man rated nor has it achieved a moon orbit or moon landing.

Which is the more successful ?

So you're leaving out SA-1 through 5, AS-101 through 105, AS-201 through 203, QTV, Pad Abort Test 1 and 2, A-001 through 004, and the Mercury and Gemini programs before them to be intentionally deceptive? Or... just disrespectful?

> Which is the more successful ?

Who thinks like this? Who sees what I just saw and has this thought? A wasted opportunity for some wonder and joy.

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