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a rant without a solution to the rants... sry but why this post is voted up so high? do we wane start a ruby vs python war? both languages are good in there own ways. I don't even understand how someone can compare theme...

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Na, Ruby and Python are quite close to each other and quite comparable. Which other language would you compare it to?

Python and Ruby have somewhat comparable syntaxes, but Objective-C and Ruby are much more comparable in overall language design. If you feel the need to compare similar languages, it may be a better choice as a starting point. Or Smalltalk, but I suspect it wouldn't resonate quite as well, as much fewer people are familiar with it.

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