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I'm saying scholar has a problem in actually getting the data to give it to you, and that is the problem trying to be solved by getting PACER to open up.

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And I'm saying that is not true. Scholar has nearly all of the cases anyone cares about - that's how they can index and serve them. (I say this as a former Google Scholar engineer.) If you are an individual, you can read the cases on Scholar. If you are a business and want to buy the cases in bulk - then you can find someone to sell them to you.

Opening up PACER really doesn't help in practice because the data is ridiculously dirty - crappy scanned PDFs which people then pay to have triple keyed.

Edit: Ugh. It's not worth having this argument in public. Let's just say I strenuously disagree, and I was just as much there as you were.

EDIT: Regardless, this has been an interesting discussion and I'd enjoy taking it out of the context of HN if you are interested: itai |at| judicata |.com|

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