> As for Oracle, not much can redeem them.

If anything. :)

> I wish Adobe would let it die already.

I know many here can't accept the truth that Flash had, has and will have its place on the Internet. There was a need for such a technology and there still is. I will be here for another 5-15 years or so, so we should make the best out of it instead of screaming 'DIE ALREADY'. But as always, there is plenty of room for improvements. :)

FYI: Adobe donated Flex to the ASF a while ago and the mailing list is already the most active on ASF. It is actively developed and people are quite motivated.