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Comment by axod | Hacker News Reader

please :( We can all find the front page of reddit.

http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/87y7f/the_monste...

I'm not usually one to moan ;), but we have an article about marriage, an article on autism, an article on a board game, and "Ex-IMF Official: the U.S. is coming to resemble Argentina, Russia" at the top of hacker news.

As this trend continues, the front page becomes less and less useful (In my opinion) as it starts to overlap more and more with reddit, digg, etc etc.

I don't know the answer, but the trend really does seem to be accelerating fast now.

Just look at the hacker news front page from January 2008. http://web.archive.org/web/20080109085729/http://news.ycombi...

The difference between that front page, and the current front page is pretty marked IMHO.

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Comment threads like this are off-topic and toxic. If you think Hacker News is ruined by all of these horribly interesting articles and something drastic most be done, make a new post.

>Please don't submit comments complaining that a submission is inappropriate for the site. If you think something is spam or egregiously offtopic, you can flag it by going to its page and clicking on the "flag" link.

http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

"make a new post."

Or perhaps a new site for just 'hacker news' without the rest ;)

Flagging only works if the moderators + pg agree it's off topic (Enough people flagged the Marriage article and it was killed, but then was apparently brought back to life anyway) :/

Appealing to the community to stop upvoting non hacker news and checking the [new] articles for more relevant articles seems like it may have more effect on keeping the magic alive here.

If the community decide they want to read the same sort of articles you find on the front page of Reddit/Digg etc, then so be it, but I personally think it'd be a shame. There's plenty of interesting hacker stories in the [new] section that aren't getting on the front page.

The "upmod only" strategy of this site is now getting tested... What that means is that the old guard have no power to enforce social orthodoxy upon any new visitors, so norms like "a site called hacker news should be about hacker news" cannot be enforced, and therefore disappear. Nor do the moderators seem to care to enforce the rules, so...

I would guess that in a year or so, the front page of news.ycombinator.com won't contain even one programming story most of the time. Paul Graham's essay says he thinks there's nothing wrong as of February 2009:

http://www.paulgraham.com/hackernews.html

so I suppose no official action is being taken or contemplated. Unfortunately, the character of a community is a lot easier and faster to destroy than one would think, and can never be restored, and so I suspect that by the time any action might be contemplated, it will already be too late.

It's already too late. It's gotten worse every day for the last month, I think.

Not everyone here goes to Reddit. This was actually a really good read and I'm glad it was posted.

For the 50th time at least, I will reiterate (somewhat ironically) that the worst thing on HN isn't the off-topic stories but the constant meta-conversations about what is and isn't off-topic. Boring.

There does seem to be about 40% of HN articles also listed on programming.reddit, I guess the 2 communities do overlap...

maybe its time for tag-based filters on HN, and an automated onreddit tag?

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