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Wow, this is fantastic. The US media is preparing a new scapegoat: Chinese hackers, so if financial institutions fail(they are currently set to fail for their selves) they have an enemy they could use.

Note in the article, if people can't use their ATMs, like in Cyprus, Chinese are the ones responsible!!

Brilliant, like Nazism used Communism(Reichstag fire) and Communism(Stalin) used Nazism as an excuse to gain more and more power from its citizens, US of America needs new enemies, as Sadam Hussein and Osaba Bin Laden are dead in order to make the powerful more powerful, the TSA more freedom killers and citizens less autonomous from the government.

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OMG, it's like we can't focus on multiple things at once.

How about this revelation: people in cyprus can't use ATMs because they can't manage their money, and Chinese government-sponsored hackers are also targeting American businesses. I know, it's a lot to concentrate on.

But seriously, I like many others on this tech-centered news site where we pretty much run the entire internet collectively, have seen first hand Chinese-sponsored hackers. So you can't really pull the wool over our eyes so easily.

You are more than right.

To the other readers: Whenever you can read the kind of articles like the TFA you can be certain of only one thing: some propaganda office somewhere either wrote it or motivated somebody to write it that way. The military people have zero interest to present such details to the public, the propaganda people do but only if the purpose is "to prepare the opinion at home" (the pretext) for something that is going to follow. So just remeber this for now, I'm sure you'll see something will happen soon but not initiated from the other side. It's not a tinfoil-hat-imagined conspiracy but how "the machinery" of structures with different interests imperfect as it is "shines" to the outer world. For examples of similar actions from not so long ago:

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/avrticle/0,9171,994414,00....

Unless you're one of those on the payroll, don't happy, be worry.

>> you can be certain of only one thing: some propaganda office somewhere either wrote [the article] or motivated somebody to write it that way.

When you wrote that, my first reaction was -- is he part of "the 50 cent army"? 1/2 :-) The propaganda thing goes two ways.

I've seen arguments that the reason why e.g. the Mideast countries are swimming in tinfoil-hat conspiracy theories, is that they LIVE inside a conspiracy theory -- auctoritarian dictatorships. The same goes for Chinese people. And you, too?

Are you too young to remember this, just as an example:

http://edition.cnn.com/2003/US/03/14/sprj.irq.documents/

If you want something from the most recent times, it's still unchanged:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/mar/18/panorama-iraq-fr...

Do you remember the times when Americans not only believed that Saddam took part in 9/11 (heck when Bush says so it must be true) but that he was also ready to nuke US?

Now Chinese are almost presented as posessing "the weapons of mass destruction" because... Wait for it... They have access to the internet!

I mean, really...

Btw I had to look up for the term you mentioned in Wikipedia. FWIW I've never read any sources that aren't the western ones. But I was already old enough in 9/11 and WMD times to read the articles like the above as they were written and the book from the earlier link the year it was published. Call me biased then. But do try to read a little on the subjects I refer to, and also try to avoid ad hominems. EDIT: I've just tried to see some of your earlier comments, to get your context. Hmmm:

https://www.hnsearch.com/search#request/all&q=50+cent+ar...

1. There are lots of sources for intelligence services, saying lots of things. It is hard [for them] to select. [Edit: Besides, that was a totally different subject, with a different president administration, > a decade ago.]

2. You wrote that a given article was propaganda, without any support except your opinions. Here you seem to argue that the Western world (no, not only US) is lying about that China is doing extreme industrial spying. It is hard to take seriously.

3. I have seen lots of conspiracy theorist comments over the last years, both in English and my native Swedish, supporting Assad and other extremely horrible dictatorships against democracies. But sure, most of you guys are certainly just unpaid political extremists...

I bothered to find this for you, not that I expect you to be grateful -- you probably think that attacking your conspiracy theories is the same as attacking you...

It still isn't relevant for China, but a more serious viewpoint on how the Iraq WMD opinions were built:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21786506

These two spies are irrelevant to Tony Blair's clerks who were so desperate to actually take a student's thesis (!) as a constructed "proof" for the Irag's WMD, it's documented since 2003:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodgy_dossier

From the wikipedia page you referenced, that was something given to journalists:

>> issued to journalists on 3 February 2003 by Alastair Campbell, Blair's Director of Communications and Strategy

In short, a PR release had bad quality control. Wow, that must be the first time in world history...

You have gone from: Claiming propaganda offices get their world view out in media without criticism.

To: Pointing to low quality propaganda from governments, which is laughed at.

You're arguing against your original position. Film at 11.

(I might also note, re the original point, that you didn't answer when it is pointed out that lots of sources in other western countries say the same thing about Chinese spying.)

And so on.

(I don't know if you have a point, is trolling, you're writing from China -- or what the hell this is. It isn't interesting, so never mind.)

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