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UK Lulzsec hacker Ryan Ackroyd pleads guilty

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It strikes me as interesting that probably a year ago LulZSec was held as a some all-consuming, faceless group of digital wizards, (that naturally needed significant funding increases to combat.) - the press, the wrong footed FBI / Police, and ourselves accepted that they were a real threat.

It seems less so to have a mundane trial with mundane breaches of a mundane law.

We have built houses of straw, and the strength of the houses is being clearly illustrated (perhaps LulzSec achieveing one of its goals then?).

that reminds me, must change the default password on my router.

Personal pet peeve: It's 2013, and we're still calling these cyber criminals "hackers".

This story is shared on ... HACKER News. Are we all criminals aficionados here?

I think, respectfully, you should get over it. This fight was lost decades ago.

Should we just call them cyber criminals? That's a lot of syllables. And it doesn't differentiate between technical crimes and crimes like cyber bullying and internet predators. If we really want to get away from hacker and criminal being synonymous to some we need another term that exclusively means "perpetrator of technical crime" to differentiate between the two.

You know, others might have a pet peeve for exactly the opposite reason. A lot of what people call hacking now-a-days is building things with tools that were meant to do exactly what a developer is doing with them. This use of the term hacker seems to stand in opposition of what everyone else in the world considers the term to mean: newspapers, the majority of people outside the startup industry, and the actual hackers that overcome technical barriers that have been specifically placed in their way.

Anywayyyyy, anyone know what this kid's handle was? Just curious.

Wikipedia says that he was behind the handle Kayla.

Check out my HTML5 hack of Pacman

Both meanings are legitimate uses of the word, "hacker". Those who matter can tell which one is being used by the context.

Honestly, I think arguing for using the word "cracker" in place of "hacker" has a Stallman-esque feeling to it, now.

I think you mean gnu/cracker.

"Those who matter?" Hopefully you meant "those who understand the way people here use the term," which would be both more correct and less disingenuous.

I agree, though, that the terminology argument is unhelpful and stale. Unfortunately, pedantic terminology attacks are often a lot easier than constructive debate or discussion.

Following the pattern, should we put the Gang Of Four in prison then? :)

I am not sure, if they are still alive. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gang_of_Four)

Since this is HN, there's quite the possibility that malkia means the authors of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_Patterns .

LOL. And yes... But it's quite funny to find out, that there was a real gang of four :)

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