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Ask HN: What's with the downvoting to oblivion?

5 pointsIntermernet8 comments

I've noticed that there seems to be a recent trend of extreme downvoting going on recently (It happened to me in the last 12 hours).

I can understand that if you disagree with a comment, you should downvote it (I personally don't have the downvote privilege, so of course I never downvote anyone) but it seems that certain members of this community have taken it upon themselves to downvote ALL comment history if they disagree with one comment.

I first noticed it about a week ago. I don't really mind, as it's just a forum, but I'd like to understand the motivation, and why it has only started happening recently.

It's really the digital equivalent of putting your hands over your ears and yelling "La La La, Not Listening".

I presume that this too will be downvoted by my unknown nemeses... ah well.

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Downvotes have been happening for a long time. One kind of downvoting that is implicitly recommended in the welcome message for this community

http://ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html

is downvoting of comments that are "rude or dumb." Language choice can matter for what is considered rude, and I think some of your most recently downvoted comments were rude in tone and unnecessarily harshly worded. Live and learn. Hacker News attempts to establish very high standards of civility and thoughtfulness, as the linked welcome message explains.

On another topic (which you brought up):

> I can understand that if you disagree with a comment, you should downvote it ....

I don't. Do we want the top comments to be a representation of the views of the Hivemind, or do we want them to be comments that lead to interesting discussions? I'd much prefer the latter.

I therefore suggest that, for example, we all upvote thought-provoking things we disagree with and downvote pointless, me-too-ish, or impolitely stated things we agree with.

So, have an upvote, O thought-provoking person that I disagree with.

I don't hold the answer to your question but how does one go about procuring a nemesis?

I'd be proud of that achievement were I you.

Internet is indeed serious business.

You took shots at a hero for many, Jobs. Put yourself in their shoes. Votes are often what folks agree with, not what's right.

Yes, you're spot on there. I see this sort of hero-worship in many communities. I'm still not sure why so many Americans loved Jobs but seem to hate Gates, despite the latter doing more for the general growth of the industry (admittedly through very shady, monopolistic practices), the US economy, and recently, the health of humanity in general. Is it just because Bill isn't as cool?

Your historical comments don't seem to have been downvoted. Just comments in the one thread.

Yes, I noticed that as well. My question is more of a general nature, not me specifically. I've only noticed this behavior in the last few weeks. Previously people would actually engage in debate or conversation, now it seems that the downvote button is regarded as argument enough.

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