You really think Amazon Payments would have let Kickstarter go this long if they weren't kosher?
It's the fact that it's a donation, not the pre-purchase of a physical good, that makes it so.
If you're selling a physical good, you're supposed to deliver or ship it at the time of the transaction.
> where'd you hear that whopper?
Originally from our banker at Chase that handled our merchant account set up, but it's easy enough to confirm if you look:
http://usa.visa.com/download/merchants/card-acceptance-guide...
http://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0221-billed-merchandise...
> You really think Amazon Payments would have let Kickstarter go this long if they weren't kosher?
It's worth noting that even though Kickstarter is kosher, the area is gray enough that Amazon is not taking on any more Kickstarter-type sites until further notice precisely because of their legal concerns.
If you want to do crowd funding you can do that but you need to set up the expectations differently, to make sure that people know that they are donating to a project and maybe receiving a reward. Also, when purchasing things like plane or concert tickets it's important to note that you're not pre-ordering anything you're buying a reservation, you're purchasing a place on a list which will be used to allow entrance to that event or trip.
Also... smackfu? Like formerly st marks place brooklyn smackfu?