Microsoft's Windows 7 Starter is a gift to Google
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In the end, if they limit the number of open programs to three, it's very possible that users will look more favorably upon the performance/stability of Windows 7.
Why not just limit it to zero? If you don't run anything, it doesn't crash. But all it takes is one buggy piece of software to bring the whole thing down. I don't think reducing the load would help anything. IE7 with a bunch of tabs open can sometimes consume almost 1.5GB of memory...
I see power users being a lot more upset about this limitation than, for example, my mother who uses her PC for email, internet, and word docs. I also think Microsoft has done a poor job in explaining themselves on this change but I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.
I don't buy that at all. One bad program can still eat all the memory. The number of apps has little real bearing on anything. It just makes ms look like fools.
Maybe, but if so it's a bad branding decision.
The problem is not only that the "improved user experience" looks too much like "deliberate crippling". It's also that they use the same name for the crippled version. They will be derided for that, and that bad PR is going to carry over to the entire Windows 7 brand. What are they thinking?
Apple put a Mac OS with a "different user experience" on the iPhone. But they didn't advertise that to anyone but developers. The word "Mac" is not mentioned in connection with the phone. The iPhone has a really different user experience -- it's not just the Mac OS on slow hardware with a one-app-at-once limitation, it's a whole different universe. And it is very deliberately branded, not as a very small, kind of slow portable computer with no keyboard, but as the world's best phone.
I still feel that selling a crippled os like xp vs xp pro is just plain ol evil... Vista is worse and no lessob learned
And that's another reason why this is a bad move: Microsoft has a history of this sort of thing -- their confusing product lineup has been the butt of jokes for years -- so the negative stories just write themselves.
Yes, I believe I was hinting that Microsoft should have released the netbook version of Win7 under another name. But then there's a different problem: It may be a bit late to introduce Windows Netbook 1.0, because they've already shipped thousands of netbooks with full-blown XP running on them. It's not a secret that you can run XP on a netbook. Are people going to trade "up" to Netbook 1.0 from XP? Only if it's actually better -- it's not enough just to change the name.
Once again, we see that one of Microsoft's most serious competitors is itself from ten years ago. I guess there are worse problems to have in the short run, but it's a serious problem when you're trying to move forward.
Windows 7 Starter Edition does not in any way limit the number of Windows Services you can have running!
I do agree however that an app limit is silly, however I can't see MS doing a 'Firefox' project to create a lean version of Windows that they'd sell cheap. Doesn't make business sense.
Today MSFT sells Windows Home/HP for $x to lots of OEMs, who don't like paying that price, but don't have much choice, as their users 'want' Windows (want='think they want, because they dont know anything else'). OEMs say to MSFT 'we wont pay $x for Windows on netbooks, it's too expensive, sell it to us for $y'. But if MSFT sells Windows for $y for any PC then they lose $(x-y).(# of non netbook PCs), which would massively hit their share price TODAY. They can't do that, so even though they know that one day they will have to give up the $x price they do what they can to keep that price as long as possible (aka cash-cows are for milking, not slaughtering). So they invent a new product, that no self respecting OEM would sell on a decent PC, slap a $y price tag on it, and say to the netbook buyers, 'there you go, a version of windows for $y', while they keep selling the main version for $x. The fact that that version sucks is painful for MSFT, but not as painful as selling all Windows for $y for all PCs, nor as painful as being seen to do nothing in the netbook market.
Summary: this isnt about MSFT being dumb, its about MSFT keeping their cash-cow alive so that the share-holders don't slaughter them today, even if it may be bad for long-term (~5 years) shareholder value. (x >> y)
The only way that users won't say that is if the "Windows for Netbooks" is lousy in some way or another.
*(Means something like "works the same, except for feature Z" where Z is sufficiently obscure)
I'm no lawyer, so I'd love to have a lawyer wade in on this. But seeing as you asked, I'll take a stab: such a contract could be perceived as being anti-competitive, and MSFT are super sensitive to being perceived to be anti-competitive. A product that is demonstrably less good can be sold for less. But to sell the identical product at two different price points to the same company, that sounds to me (as a consumer) unfair, and anti-competition law is intended ultimately to protect consumers. (aside: MSFT had a nice solution before Win7: keep selling XP under certain netbook restrictions because it is a different product to vista, and a product that is better for netbooks/ULCPCs (and a liked product). I'm guessing they wont have as much luck selling Vista on special netbook /ULCPC only terms once Win 7 is out.. )
http://www.winmatrix.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=23795 http://www.crn.com/software/212902058
(not the best sources, but they were the first hits. wsj reported it, too)
The answer to your second question is lack of competitive pressure. Windows isn't ideal for netbooks. When they came out first, Linux looked like it might win. But it didn't. They kept netbooks windows. They did this without a fight, without a netbook strategy.
At this point, there are no new competitors & no problematic trend. They now have a netbook strategy. Flawed or not, this is better then no strategy. Why should shareholders be worried.
Microsoft needs the Starter edition to sell to Netbook manufacturers at a price point they'll accept, which is already more than supported Desktop Linux distributions cost (from say Canonical or Xandros).
The specs of Netbooks are at the moment restricted by the discounted-XP licensing arrangements from Microsoft (single core Atom processor, 1GB ram, certain size screen.. etc..).
Those restrictions can't stay in effect indefinately and what with the pace of semiconductor development, we'll see dual-core processors with a couple of gigs of ram inside the same price/power ratios we've used to with the current generation of Netbooks.
It's really lose-lose for Microsoft in terms of Netbooks not cannibalising their existing notebook OS profit.
They can't charge more than the $15 or so they're currently charging for XP, for Windows 7. OEMs are gaining more experience with integrating Linux with their hardware and they'll use this as leverage.
They can't restrict the specs of machines for much longer, or you'll be able to buy a low-spec Netbook running XP or a far faster Linux-based one for essentially the same price. Not a good outcome either.
If they don't restrict the specs, they need to restrict the software and hope they can convert the customers up to a more expensive version of Windows.
I personally think the last strategy, despite potentially playing in to Google and Linux's hands, is their best one. The outlook really doesn't look good though.
But users aren't gaining experience in using Linux nearly as fast as OEMs are at making machines with Linux running.
Have a look at the stuff HP have done with MIE atop Ubuntu providing a slick and easy UI for netbook stuff. Some of the work Intel's doing on Moblin too. Two second boot times are insane.
Of course, there's also a danger we'll have a raft of dozens of half-baked 'easy' UIs running atop of OEMs custom distributions.
Microsoft: your turf is the OS. Many people (myself included) still like the OS. If you cripple it so badly, the web will look a lot more attractive and that just won't be good for you in the long-run.
I'm still hoping that Microsoft is more just testing the water around this limitation than seriously considering it.
I don't know anything about how this works, but I'd assume for any level of backwards compatability at all, it has to be an extremely weak restriction.
Also, IE8 creates separate processes for each tab, just like Chrome. Obviously Microsoft can set whatever double standards they like, but excluding other browsers would pretty much guarantee the Justice Department re-entering the mix.
"It turns out that the vast majority of all IE sessions contain three or fewer tabs. Accordingly, in Beta 2 we try to give users three efficient tab processes. This is contingent on the user’s computer capabilities, but the more capable a computer is, the more processes we will use, up to a point. Adding more processes gives users much better isolation in the event of a failure. If each tab is in its own process, websites are completely isolated from each other."
Source: http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2008/07/28/ie8-and-reliabil...
That's only because tab management sucks when you put the tabs along the top of the screen, and the lack of organization means people feel obligated to close things out or re-use them rather than popping new tabs.
Since I started using Tree Style Tabs in FF, I'm averaging somewhere around 50 tabs up at a time (of course, I don't even notice this until FF tells me the number as I close out, since they're all collapsed and well organized).
Whether this extends to other programs that may spawn multiple processes of the same name or not, that's to be tested. I do think that this "version" of Windows 7 is an extraordinarily bad idea, but then Microsoft wouldn't be Microsoft if it didn't bundle a bad idea with a good one.
Imagine if you had IE, Word and Outlook open, tried to copy a file and received a "Sorry, that's too many applications!" message...