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>>You don't need to write Dart in the Dart Editor if you don't want the IDE experience. I happily write Dart in Sublime, and Dart has command-line tools that I can use to validate the code that I write.

This is the same line argument made with regards to Java too.

But the fact of the matter is, these language bring in so complexity with their whole ecosystem. Working without an IDE isn't even worth that torture.

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Respectfully, I disagree.

I've written Java in plaintext editors before, and that is truly terrible. Dart is nowhere near that verbose. Dart's imports feel pretty lightweight (rather Python-esque) and the fact that the language has top-level functions and variables means that you're not always trying to juggle a bunch of classes and objects and interfaces when you don't need to. In fact, Dart's style guide explicitly recommends that you don't put things in wrapper objects just because you can. http://www.dartlang.org/articles/style-guide/

I really don't think that Dart brings in any more complexity than you'd have in a JavaScript application. I actually think it's a lot easier to hold a Dart application in your head because all the APIs have a consistent interface. With JavaScript, you often have a bunch of different libraries and you have to remember how each of them behaves.

Dart imports are a bit less verbose as you do an entire library instead of a class like java does. As well, globally scoped functions let you code without all the OOP if you don't want it.

How do you use your JavaScript libraries today? Do you have evrything memorized?

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