Hacker News Reader

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. ("Niemand ist mehr Sklave, als der sich für frei hält, ohne es zu sein.") -Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

View on HN

Another interesting quote, but I'd be far more interested in concrete examples. The biggest problem is restrictions on the freedom to dissent. I agree that is a big problem (if not the central problem) with regard to government surveillance. Beyond that, though, there are some laws that should be changed (controversial issues like gay marriage, etc.), but what else? What am I wrongfully denied the freedom to do?

I hope you realize that "you don't know how enslaved you are" is really a terrible catchphrase for a movement. People just roll their eyes when they hear that. You need to back it up with something they can relate to.

There are two answers to this in the video. 1) Even if you are not doing anything wrong, you are being watched. You don't have to have done anything wrong, but if you fall under suspicion due to a bad call, they can go back into this system and analyse every decision you've made, every friend you've ever discussed with and attack you on that basis; that derives suspicion based on an innocent life and paint anyone in the context of a wrong-doer. 2) The storage systems are growing by an order of magnitude every year and if this sort of a system is not stopped at this stage and if we allow this and assume this to be legal, imagine the kind of danger it may bring in the next few generations.

Reply on news.ycombinator.com