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Intel Linux Developer Asks Torvalds To Stop Verbal Abuse

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Abuse by F-bombing isn't just about professionalism, it's part of a posturing, adulation-seeking personality that aspiring devs and infosec hackers think they have to adopt. I admire Torvalds for all that he's accomplished. He doesn't have to behave like this, he chooses to. Not cool.

It's posturing, but it's not adulation seeking. He is calling attention to bad code and bad behavior, highlighting it as an example of what NOT to do. If he had used nice, professional corporate speak, he probably wouldn't have been able to call nearly as much attention to the problems.

Even assholes serve a useful social function sometimes.

Also, let's stop calling it "abuse". If you can't weather a few F-bombs then you wouldn't have survived a typical American schoolyard, let alone a high-intensity workplace where shit has to get done.

Maybe you have a point. But personally speaking, I am not sure I want my work environment to turn in to highschool

What do infosec hackers have to do with this? We're not all f-bomb droppers who go around insulting everyone.

Or perhaps he doesn't choose to but has a mild Asperger's.

At some point, some one, did understand, that the _words_ of Mr. Tolvards on a "hacking" mailing list, did suppose any real treat, or abuse, or purpose of damage, or bad intentions ?

I'm sick of this kind of things. And I'm in groups to support mistreated women. But this kind of accusations, to someone who is focused on work on a project and not in personal damages,I think are bullshit.

Hypothetically (I'm not a kernel developer) how is someone on the receiving end of Linus's text/verbal abuse supposed to feel?

Does Linus just assume that people don't take it personally? Is this his way of establishing a "barrier to entry" for kernel developers?

I'm pretty sure that in any case, abuse is toxic... I'm sure that it isn't good for the soul of either the person on the giving end or receiving end. I don't really think Linus is justified - it isn't just about being polite - it is about having respect for fellow human beings and what they bring to the table.

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