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"For a phone to run a full desktop OS, it must have the raw power of a PC. We’ll choose the fastest available multi-core processor, at least 4GB of RAM and a massive 128GB of storage"

I would love to be wrong but I'm not buying the promise of a (real world functioning) PC on a phone. ARM based chips are 1 order of magnitude slower than a desktop x86 counterpart, currently there is no such processor to perform as desktop. Maybe they are going the intel road, anyway the indiegogo pitch sounds more like wishful thinking than a real plan.

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My team dogfoods Ubuntu for Android every single day on the Nexus 4, and I'll say that it's performant enough to be a daily driver as a desktop replacement.

Edge has 4GB of RAM planned, and will run even better than the N4.

hows the camera for you? I use the n4 with android and the camera digital blur / tearing is pretty annoying. did you get around that or not use the camera much?

Ubuntu for Android is our convergence product: http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/ubuntu-for-android

So we still use the Android software to drive the camera.

As a photographer though, I have to say that I don't exactly hate the N4 camera. Built-in HDR is kinda nice, and has saved many shots for me.

Is this available somewhere public?

Sorry, it is not public yet.

Macbook Airs aren't as powerful as desktop Mac Pros, but they offer a great convenience to the owners. It's "good enough" for most things. I see the Ubuntu Edge as a similar device.

> full desktop OS

Maemo (full-fledged Debian-based mobile distro, now dead, thanks Elop) user here.

Is Ubuntu Phone really running a full-fledged desktop-as-we-know-it GNU/Linux-derived distro? Because, after I heard about bionic+libhybris stuff and some chroot kludges I start highly doubt it. It's as "Ubuntu desktop" as chrooted Ubuntu install on Android, except for more optimized (compared to VNC-to-localhost, huh) video pipeline.

My perception is that it's neither typical-GNU neither Android but something partially (in)compatible to both.

Would be really nice if I'm wrong on this matter.

Your "wrong", but only b/c the container flip happened recently. They had the Android chroot thing to get going quickly, from what I can gather.

https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2013-July/037...

Ubuntu Touch is fully Ubuntu and can take advantage of all that goodness.

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