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Hehe, you are so right. I remember at some point considering Drupal for a project because I thought Django was doing "too much" on certain things and "too little" where I needed it the most.

Fast forward a month and two books later: I rewrote the whole thing in Django in half the time with 10% of the hacks. Drupal is great for what it does, just don't try to make it do anything it doesn't or customize it too much.

I've been working with Rails for five years, and a year ago I had an aborted project with a friend on Drupal on which I spent about 6 weeks. It was pretty terrible.

Aborted project on Drupal sums up my latest experience with it too. I have completed a couple over the years though, but after building a few Rails apps, never again will I use Drupal.

I complain a lot about documentation in Ruby and Rails, but wow, Drupal eats those deficiencies for lunch. It was where I concluded that, sometimes, know-how is held closely as a profit center. It's not even a learning curve thing where the ladder to expertise is long, but that several rungs are entirely missing, if not kicked through by previous climbers.

haha. Yeah, these guys have never seen a java spring app.