Cocktails for programmers
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Yes, a stamp collector might use a leaf blower, but it would not be relevant to collecting stamps. On the contrary, using a leaf blower while collecting stamps would be… inadvisable.
Further reading: http://old.ryanfunduk.com/culture-of-exclusion/
You think maybe I should write a long-winded self-aggrandizing blog post about this culture of exclusion?
The guy seems to be interpreting a lot of his examples in the worst possible light, too. Example: Q: Is there space set up for hacking? A: We have done this for previous conferences, but to be honest people were having too much social fun to really take advantage of the space. Translation: Y U NO DRINKING!?
That's a stupid translation. They set up hacking space before and very few people used it, so they didn't bother this time. You have your cause and effect backwards if you think this means they're trying to force you to drink.
Or: "Perks for working for them include dental coverage, and 'weekly happy hour'. Those who don't want to participate in getting sloshed regularly... need not apply?"
Jesus, dude, settle down. You've taken a perk of employment and turned it into a statement that if you don't drink you're not welcome? Please let go of your persecution complex. I know it's really fun to be indignant that others encouraging you to have a good time is so totally unfair, but it's really no different than people saying "No seriously, The Wire is fucking fantastic! You have to watch it!"
Interacting with humans isn't that hard if you allow yourself and others to actually act like humans.
Apparently, if you give most technical conference attendees the option (and venue, drinks, transport, etc), they will opt for going drinking in environments not suited for conversation. If this happens, I interpret it as a failure of the conference organizers. Why? Because their job is to organize a conference, not a party. If they want to leave some time for people to party (or pray, or go skinny-dipping, or windsurfing, etc.), then they can do so. However, to actively encourage people to be non-networking and to not talk (usefully) about the actual conference topic is, in my view, an anti-pattern of conferences.
I've got to say though, even heavy drinking has never stopped me from having technical conversations with people, even in crowded bars...
I have tried to have technical conversations at parties and in bars with people I know to be interested in and knowledgeable in the topic. It's basically impossible.
Firstly, the loud music and other conversation makes it very hard to hear what they're saying, and the things said therefore tend to be simplified into what can be said simply in short words.
Secondly, they are often drunk and/or more interested in talking about beer or something than the topic they presumably are at the conference to advance. This is, of course, understandable; they're not expecting to have anything whatsoever to do with the conference topic at the party, since nobody else is, either.
Thirdly, there are no whiteboards to use as discussion aids. It's also quite dark, and it's often cramped so you can't easily show somebody something by moving around. Basically, bars and party rooms are not exactly conducive to productive discussions. (In the past there would also be no internet and, further back, no computers, but that has thankfully become a non-issue these days.)
You are saying that conferences should not be like parties, because conferences are not like parties. You are just using your restricted definition of conference (not like a party) to support what you think a conference should be (not like a party). My take on it is that some conferences empirically do have many similarities to parties. This doesn't make them 'not conferences', so saying "their job is to organize a conference, not a party" is setting up a dichotomy that doesn't actually exist.
If that isn't your sort of conference, then no problem, not everything is for everybody. Personally I prefer more intimate technical conversations over a beer, a bar napkin, and a cellphone than sterile professional presentations in front of a whiteboard. Obviously you do not, and that is perfectly fine as well. There is room in this world for both; there is no reason to discourage one or the other from existing.
Not quite.
What I am saying is that conferences and parties have different goals. The goal of a conference is to advance the field. The goal of a party is to have fun. The goal of a conference is not advanced by organizing a party, nor is the goal of a party advanced by organizing a conference.
A conference can (and perhaps should) have many elements of a party in it — evening social activities, perhaps even in a bar where alcolhol (gasp!) is consumed. All of this may be perfectly fine. But, these activities should be organized with the goal of the conference in mind.
However, what many conference organizers seem to do is fill the days with talks, (while minimizing the time between talks to fit as many as possible), and then on the evenings they try to organize the best party they can think of. The best party, mind you, not the best socializing activity, which might have advanced the networking in the field, but the best party, whatever the tastes of the organizers and/or the prospective attendees.
This makes the conference a series of undiscussed talks in the daytime, followed by a series of usually pounding party keggers at night. The talks can be watched at home if they are filmed, and the parties can be had locally, too. There is no reason to attend these kinds of conferences. Unless, of course, you are already connected and go to any number of conferences a year and meet all the same people — your party buddies.
That is nothing more than your personal take on what a conference should be. The reality is that many conferences aren't like that. It is no skin off your back if other people have a different idea if what a conference should be, and implement their vision of a conference.
Nobody is saying you have to go enjoy a party-like conference, and all I am saying is that you in turn should not tell other people that they shouldn't.
However, I have run out of ideas on how to explain myself in yet other ways.
EDIT: I think now that we are having a word definition debate here. When you say that “many conferences aren't like that“, then I would call those themed parties, not conferences.
Well I'm saying that I think that is too imposing.
It would be like me saying that bowling alleys should be careful not to place too much emphasis on drinking, because the purpose of a bowling alley is to compete with others at rolling a ball at things. Who am I to say that others shouldn't think that the purpose of bowling is to drink with friends while occasionally rolling a ball around? I shouldn't impose my idea of the purpose of bowling on other people.
I hope it is clear what I mean.
Since having a party-like atmosphere will make people come to the conference, by all means conferences should have them. But one should keep in mind that the party-like atmosphere does not obscure or negate the purpose of the conference in the first place.
So long as you realize that this sentence is just a statement your own personal opinion, not some sort of universal truth about conferences, then I don't think we have any issue. The goal, or purpose, of a conference is something for organizers and participants to decide for themselves.
(The answer to "You think maybe I should write a long-winded self-aggrandizing blog post about this culture of exclusion?" is "No you should not jlgreco, because that would make you (even more of) an insufferable cock.")
And your conclusion from this is that conference organizers should give people less of what they want?
Perhaps you are as serious and focused as you are advocating here, but I think you might find that a lot of people want a bit more than just sitting in an auditorium "talking usefully about the actual conference topic" to make the trip fun. If a conference devolves into pure binge drinking and partying, then yes, I can understand your concern. But some amount of partying is a legitimate draw for people and it fills seats. That's just the way it goes.
Therefore, even giving paying customers what they not only ask for, but actually do want, might still not be a good idea.
Presumably, their competitors either adapted or died. Even if the winds of change are blowing in bad way for society, trying to stand against them may be bad for business.
Perhaps take the tactic of the yuppie organic good section?
Wait a few years, then start a conference dedicated to real work and actually getting things done.
HEY EVERYONE, STOP LIKING THINGS I DON'T LIKE! /s
This, to me, is not a successful outcome of a conference.
Some of you need to loosen your britches around here, seriously.
Therefore, see my reply to untog's comment.
See my comment here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6376546 where I already agreed that “a conference can (and perhaps should) have many elements of a party in it”.
Ethanol is actually second only to fat in caloric density, though thankfully you don't really consume massive amounts of it without knowing it. ;)
EDIT: and yeah, rayiner's wife is awesome :)
Unfortunately when cocktails are based on nasty components, they often end up trying to disguise the spirit with sugary mixers like fruit juice or coke.
If you're interested in cocktails and don't mind diving in the deep end, try an authentic Sazerac:
http://www.esquire.com/drinks/sazerac-drink-recipe
Remember: the point is to highlight the primary spirit, so start with something good: http://www.anchordistilling.com/spirits/old-potrero-straight...
Felten's book ( http://www.amazon.com/Hows-Your-Drink-Cocktails-Drinking/dp/... ) has a good overview of all the classic cocktails, and in general is an interesting read. I have yet to try the Sazerac, having 3 bottles of rye at home... Shame :(
Also, the "original" pre-rye Sazerac was done with Cognac, gotta try that at some point as well.
This is why people don't like cocktails. These are seriously terrible. I wouldn't serve any of these, ever.
I don't want to be overly negative here, but no number of pull requests will fix this. Rather than try to salvage these, I will offer take out anyone who's interested and introduce you to a bunch of the top folks in the food and drink biz. There's really not a friendlier group of people, and learning about wine and spirits is a lot of fun.
Why not? I'm afraid you haven't had anything good. There's no reason you shouldn't like "more refined" (good) products if you like the bad ones. Also, it's not just the quality of the product. For instance, Jaegermeister is a quality product, but the drink he makes with it is arbitrary. Would you like a tomato, peanut butter, and mustard sandwich?
The offer stands. Take me up. I'll buy you a drink.
Or it could be as you say and I've never really indulged in what could be considered truly superior products. Sometimes I'm not really sure.
I will indeed. I'm curious if it's just me.
You mean ... we have to fork?
10 tequila
20 GOTO 10That said, I enjoy a good (=nasty) tequila every now and then. Just like I enjoy a good glass of paint thinner aka Moutai on occasion: give the ol' taste buds a little workout.
drink($tequila) or die(); drink($tequila) or die("Vomiting...");WCF, WindowsForms, EntityFramework are proprietary. But nobody in sane mind will use them.
I was about to object... but yeah, you're pretty much spot-on. I still say that, except for the omgwtfbbq databinding stuff, Winforms was a fine technology for its time. It's just that its time is past and MS doesn't ever update anything, they just abandon-and-replace with something horribly baroque.
EF is my definition for "so close, and yet so far".
I have no idea what the heck happened with WCF though. Seriously, I can't even find the kernel of good ideas that got corrupted in the process of implementation like I can with those other two.
WCF and EF - "oh noes". My eyes are bleeding with just one look at this.
Microsoft can make something simple and brilliant as TPL, but on other side we have such overengineered behemots as WCF and EF.
Sounds more like current JavaScript and HTML/CSS. Unless you "drink" it using special kind of "glassware" like JQuery and BootStrap.
Yech.
The release included a GUI version of an existing command line tool because a certain customer wrote in saying "F&*k this DOS prompt BS, I want a GUI".
We now call this awful shot "The DOS Prompt"
1. half glass of Campari bitter. 2. Ice 3. orange 4. a shot of water-soda
(never use tonic or white wine, if you like it a bit more alcoholic then use some cava or champagne [sprinkledwine])
Assembly is pure ethanol.
Still thinking how would VHDL be... thinking about raw sugar cane to make your own alcohol from there.
Sorry.
It's smooth, soft and pleasant, nothing like the nasty, grating stuff they produce in Scotland. A favorite of mine, for sure.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/partyrobotics/bartendro-...
Now you just need an R2 to deliver them. ;)
http://blogs.laweekly.com/squidink/2010/12/theres_got_to_be_...
OK. Here is your java cocktail: 1. 50 mg of sand. Yes, you will never drink it, but it will gloriously creak on your teeth 2. Water. Put it as much as you can. If you're really into "hard staff" - use sea water. 3. Alcohol. In fact - you don't need this. But if you want - mix something. Anyway you don't have a lot of space to put a good portion of booze.
My engineering pals think me using a gist to store recipes is funny... :P
https://github.com/the-teacher/cocktails_for_programmers/blo...
First we had the 'how to shoot yourself in the foot in X language' jokes.
Now we'll have jokes about what cocktails different programming languages would be. Not bad, I might compile them in a page some day.
or
Lua Kahlua.
The younguns at work were terrified of its layout and design when I showed it to them but it's a solid site.
And then there's machine code - industrial alcohol