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> Removes a lot of the useless icons

The screenshot implies that it's removed all the icons - are icons universally considered useless now? I know I'm a sample of one, but I've always found the console icon to get "console output", the big red button for "delete", etc to be useful and unobtrusive...

> The fonts are bigger. Way bigger. > More spacing in between list items. > Text inputs are friendlier, bigger

For people using jenkins on their phones? :S I'm using it on a 1080p monitor, and even then I sometimes use my browser's zoom feature to zoom out so that I can fit more information on screen...

I'm all for UI improvements, but this just seems like "replace things with bootstrap, because everything has to be like bootstrap now" :(

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11px is a pretty small default, below the recommended size. For links it also means a small target to click on.

There's some context about icons here: http://jonoscript.wordpress.com/2012/04/26/gmail-designer-ar...

If they are universally acknowledgeable (a big red X, a red dot, a green dot) then yeah they make sense, otherwise they just lead to confusion about what they do. In this case I didn't think they were adding anything to the left hand marker so I removed them.

Thanks for starting this. As a daily Jenkins user, I'm convinced there's a huge room for improvement re: UX. However, I think the icon removal is misguided. Default Jenkins icons are dated and probably too bold, but we shouldn't get rid of icons entirely. Menus change a lot in Jenkins (depending on context and rights). Having icons next to links makes it easier to spot the right action or menu item by scanning, instead of having to read it all. In my opinion, the link you cite does not at all justify removing icons. It says that having only icons (additionally, unclear ones) is an issue, with which I couldn't agree more.

To add more feedback: - I love the new console output. - I think the font-size is better. - I like the more-roomy build history better. - I think you could replace the dated build-status and build-weather-report icons to something more modern and better-looking

I'm already using it (just customized it a bit to match the colors at work, and reintroduced the images).

The UI is now nicer, especially the black background output and larger inputs.

Thank you for your work

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