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As a counterpoint: It's far more likely i might be mugged for the easy cash scored by a phone that has a 500€ market price, than to have my desktop stolen. ;)

One more question:

How about sites which don't have clef implemented? Can i enter a URL into the clef app (or use some kind of JS scriptlet to generate a QR code on the fly) and have it generate me the password for that, so i can type it in manually? Maybe even store usernames for such sites?

Right now Clef has zero use for me, as i've never even seen a website that implemented it. But something like that would at least add some use.

(Also i'm sad that you didn't confirm or deny the footnotes.)

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Right now, sites need to explicitly integrate with us. We've thought a lot about creating something that manages passwords to bridge the gap. We've actually been working on this with some community members (Joe is here somewhere) and are hoping to roll something out in the next few weeks. Sorry for not addressing the footnotes!

1. exactly, we generate a digital signature similar to SQRL

2. right. from a technical perspective, the barcode is simpler than a QR code; however, it's actually proven really important from a usability standpoint. by animating the interaction, we have more control of the user's mental model of what's going on and can provide a much more intuitive user experience.

Thanks for the answers. I'll be looking forward to see it hit hackernews.† :)

I've mentioned it elsewhere here, but i'd suggest you also look into https://github.com/habnabit/passacre , since its creators put a LOT of value in getting the crypto parts right and its main creator is very responsive online.

And thanks for answering the footnotes. It is an interesting thought that users can be helped by the wiggling animation of the barcode and its inherent suggestion. (That would be worth a trip report on how you got there.)

† I'd prefer to follow an rss feed, but your blog seems to be 90% marketing and only 10% user-relevant posts with no categories.

We're working on the blog :D

I'll definitely make sure to look over passacre; it seems great.

And no problem on the footnotes, if you ever have any more questions don't hesitate to email me at jesse at our domain name!

Mithaldu, just as a reference, I'm the guy working with Clef on enabling Clef on more sites.. We've got a pretty cool system, and it's getting dang close to release. Hopefully I'll have it finished soon!

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