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Comment by trobertson | Hacker News Reader

Yeah no prob. I'm particularly interested in Lavabit's story, because I'm looking to get off of Gmail and get some degree of privacy. But with how this is going, it looks like I'm going to have to wait for a non-USA company to start a similar service (I'm broke and in the USA, so I'm not in a position to start one myself).

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Why do you think a company anywhere would have more luck than Lavabit when presented with a legal search order?

I think the US government is engaging in a massive overreach, and I think that other countries have an opportunity to develop sane data protection laws. Normally, when you want data on one person, you get a warrant for data on that person. The US government, however, has decided that the rational move is to demand indiscriminate access to the records and communications of over 400,000 Lavabit customers.

I skimmed these pages as well, and it seems obvious now that you can no longer trust a legal system to protect your privacy. We (hackers) need to combat this with a technical system.

I would also note that it seems incredibly clear that Ladar Levison knew what was at stake: for himself, for Snowden, for his company, and for his users. His decision to shutter his doors was his last option to protect their 4th amendment rights and I'm absolutely amazed he made the right call here.

Kudos to a brave man.

Run your own mail server.

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