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> The problem isn't the time spent in school, the problem is the school itself.

Actually, that's not enough detail. "School" is a complex system consisting of many parts -- all of which have their issues. Parents play a big role, in so far as what they expect from their children, their local board of ed, and their superintendent.

> We teach people to be the status quo, we don't encourage them to excel.

You'd be amazed at the forces in place that so strongly coerce teachers to stick to the status quo.

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It's sad. All of the teachers that are forced to teach to the status quo do so because money is on the line. If a school doesn't conform to the guidelines set down by the government, then they don't get funding. This is a classic example of a law that is meant to help failing miserably, and even making things worse.

And you can't really blame the teachers. They need to make a living, and they barely do as it is. I hate the fact that we seem to value our teachers so little.

And you can't really blame the teachers. They need to make a living, and they barely do as it is.

How does the living made by teachers compare to other employed persons with similar qualifications and ability?

Teachers make about 40k a year. http://www.payscale.com/research/US/All_K-12_Teachers/Salary

I'm of the opinion that we should value our educators more.

> It's sad. All of the teachers that are forced to teach to the status quo do so because money is on the line.

There's more to it than just that, actually. What happens when a teacher demands excellence? Well: grades drop, students (mostly the mediocre ones) complain, parents complain, teachers must do far more grading (and be forced to back it up -- every single point), other faculty members can get disgruntled, administration wants to know how this will impact standardized test scores (because they have to answer to the superintendent who insists that the scores go up every year or else you're doing something wrong).

You'd be amazed at the forces in place that so strongly coerce teachers to stick to the status quo.

No, I wouldn't.

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