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This is why I advise everyone to actually wait before upgrading your existing OS. See, if this was any other software, say like a word processor, you can probably use a replacement as a temporary measure, but as for the OS, you should never gamble, because it's one of the most painful experiences to install and re-install an entire OS and all the necessary programs after that.

Also, I would like to point out (again) that if you are running Adobe's Creative Suite 6 and below, Mavericks has compatibility issues with some programs for some users. Ex: Photoshop's 'save as' doesn't work, and stuff like that. If your business is dependent on any of these softwares like in my case, I suggest you wait for a few months before these bugs are squished (which Apple of course is pretty good at).

Cheers.

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To be fair the same thing could happen with any OS update, even from regular security patches, not just from the actually semi-meaningful upgrade Mavericks is.

So if you are the kind of person to be super conservative obviously you should just never upgrade or wait for at least 3 years because you can never be sure that there won't be problems.

And you know, not having access to the 'Save As' menu in Photoshop is going to create millions in support costs, so it's worth exposing all your users to untold hordes of security vulnerabilities from an unsupported and outdated operating system.

(Or at least that's how things work if you're a large Enterprise heavy on MS technologies?)

(Please don't take this post too seriously.)

I think you misunderstood that I was implying asking people to wait indefinitely while I just meant for them to wait for a few months.

And, if the software that's making my both ends meet doesn't work on a newer OS version as expected, I think it's fair that I (or anyone else) wait for a few months just to be sure that it works as expected so we don't end up in the streets, you know.

(Please take my comment seriously)

> [a very] painful experiences to install and re-install an entire OS

Don't want to be contrarian but I just installed an Ubuntu on an old laptop for my own use, and it took around 1.5 hours, with only a few minutes requiring my attention.

I follow and update a personal step-by-step installation guide, and most tweaks and installations after the main OS install are commands I just blindly copy-paste in a terminal. I can even use command-line to configure apps and gnome layout.

Not to say I am an Ubuntu fanboy. I hate it actually, and wipe some warm tears each time I have to install it (why did they drop gnome 2!?). But I still hate it less than other non-Linux systems, and didn't take time to explore other Linuxes.

Please. Installing MacOS is a breeze, you don't even need tweaks and installations via the command line unless you need a package manager.

The point is that downgrading an OS is no fun and that's true for any OS.

Sometimes the web is an eerie place. I just searched for Adobe and Maverick conflicts, and this is near the top on google (having been updated "47 minutes ago"): http://hackers.tgdaily.com/rt_story/hackers_tech/mac-os-x-ma...

Do you have a cite for the Photoshop "Save As" problem? I've seen this mentioned multiple times as a reason to not upgrade, but I've never been able to find a first-hand report of it actually happening other than in early betas. I don't think this is actually still a problem, but if it is, I would like to know about it.

We tried it in three of our office computers and about two of them had this problem so we had to revert back to Lion. Also a quick googling:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1596253

http://blogs.adobe.com/vikrant/2013/10/creative-cloud-creati...

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