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See also: "Is there a secure cryptosystem that can be performed mentally?" http://crypto.stackexchange.com/questions/844/is-there-a-sec...

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That makes me wonder if any gangs have used Solitaire. Weaknesses aside, it seems extremely plausible that you could actually share the keys in prison and execute it. And a 225 bit key is nothing to sneeze at.

On the other hand a substitution cipher is more resistant to user error when encrypting or decrypting since such an error only affects a single character. In secret prison communication you might not have the time to double-check your encryption.

I wonder if imprisoned gang members have access to cell phones, though. They probably do. You could run actual strong crypto even on a J2ME device (or a gaming console, or a programmable calculator, or an MP3 player etc.) and I'm sure there's plenty of people you could hire to write a custom-designed, one-of-a-kind bespoke cryptographic app for a gang.

I was under the impression that in prison, time is the one thing you have plenty of.

Time when you can fiddle with cards and write down cryptic series of numbers without attracting undue attention is probably scarce.

The cards just look like you're playing some form of single player game (hence the name). If you had a journal to write in, then with some practice, you could pass it off as idly playing the game while thinking of what to write.

> write.

How many prisoners have free access to pens or pencils?

(Not snarky, I really don't know)

In a recent thread on reddit, a former inmate listed what was issued in county/state/federal, and paper with a pencil or a pen with a rubber body was in all of them.

Can you give us a link?

I wish I could, but I can't remember what the thread was about originally. I tried searching, but I can't find it.

> I wonder if imprisoned gang members have access to cell phones, though. They probably do.

No, they don't. Most countries (including USA, AFAIK) restrict inmates phone communication with the external world.

Cell phones and other contraband may be prohibited, but they still exist in prisons.

  State prison records show that for the first seven months of
  this year, corrections officers have seized 319 cell phones
  from inmates [in Ohio's] 28 prisons.

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2013/08/ohio_prison...

I'm sort of surprised that, rather than seizing them, they don't just put an IMSI catcher there and listen in on inmates' illicit calls.

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