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I usually hate these tempest-in-a-teapot flame wars, but I'll actually have to disagree here. He gave a whole demo on stage claiming credit a bunch of times. I went to the FLAR toolkit page and downloaded the demo apps. This is exactly identical to the demo, just with the logos swapped. There is not one bit of original work that I can see. I'd like to believe it's an accident, but it seems like if I demoed Google with my logo slapped on it and accidentally forgot to mention that someone else wrote the search engine.

Download the toolkit and check--I'd love to be wrong, but I don't see how. And it would be unfair to pretend this is a slip a steal credit from the people who clearly spent years actually building it.

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I'd like to believe it's an accident, but it seems like if I demoed Google with my logo slapped on it and accidentally forgot to mention that someone else wrote the search engine.

Perhaps I'm blind, but I didn't see his logo on there.

What I did see was a TED video being streamed over that square.

So, a more apt analogy would be: it's as if I took a laptop with a wireless connection to a part of the world that doesn't know about Google (let's call it Grahamia), and I said, "Look what we can do with this! We just type 'Grahamia' in there, and within seconds we get all these awesome bits of information about Grahamia. That's great, isn't it? Oh, my 2 minutes are over. Thanks everyone, hope this helped!"

If you have 2 minutes to get a cool piece of tech across and you decide to spend it talking about what technologies it relies on, I don't want to see your demos..

I see your point and how it's somewhat in-between but would argue that my metaphor is closer.

The TED stage has a well-known role that's clearly understood by everyone there. I would never get ask to go up on stage to demo Google. Larry and Sergey would. If I got asked to demo someone else's work, it wouldn't slip my mind. While it sounds short, 2 mins is a pretty long time.

As I mentioned, just my opinion. But I do think someone's got to stick up for the developers who wrote the sw.

Erm, no.

Here you go:

> I'd like to believe it's an accident, but it seems like if I demoed Google with the TED logo slapped on it and accidentally forgot to mention that someone else wrote the search engine.

Did they change the audio from the originally posted video? I just watched it and I didn't hear him claim to have developed anything he was showing.

Nope, I don't think they changed it. Which is why I think this is overblown.

Swombat, wtf is your agenda? Yes, the audio is changed because the new one no longer has him saying "I've written a bunch software".

If you're trying to back up a friend, you're being way to obvious. This is definitely not overblown, taking credit for other people's work should be career changing and in the downwards direction.

*Edit: the change was really subtle too, go to 0:20 on the original

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CRI3X0pjaU

I didn't notice the change, my mistake.

And no, I don't have an agenda. I don't know this guy, but I know a lynch mob when I see one, and I don't like siding with the pitchforks.

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