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I'm surprised you would have chosen a PS4 over a PS3. The PS4 is not backwards compatible and the PS3 has a large assortment of console exclusives as well as being significantly cheaper (and DLNA media streaming if you are into that). There are some intriguing Black Friday sales coming up on the PS3 and they are still releasing exclusive games.

I honestly have no interest in a PS4 at this time. I have a PS3 and looking forward to some games coming out still (and have a huge backlog), but I also want a Wii U (and I will get one contributing to even a bigger backlog).

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With the PS4 selling faster than the initial PS3, I would expect it to quickly gather steam with developers. Life is way too short to cling to older technologies.

"The company has said it expects to sell five million units by March, which would beat the initial sales rollout of its last-generation videogame device, the PlayStation 3, which sold 3.5 million units worldwide over the same introductory period."

The PS4 exclusive titles don't look all that much better than PS3 titles, honestly. Knack is more of a mediocre beat-em-up than a platformer, and Killzone is a blurry mess.

Coming from an Xbox 360, I've got to say that the user experience on the PS4 is a mess. I put a game into the system, and I can play within a minute, but it is a pared down version of the game while it installs. Then I have to exit the game to install it. Oh, and if I want online multiplayer, I usually have to download a 700MB patch before that is available. If I access a TV app through my library, it will boot me back out to the main screen if I have a game running, but if I access it through the TV apps section, it will close my game and allow me to run Netflix.

> I put a game into the system, and I can play within a minute, but it is a pared down version of the game while it installs

With respect, what did you expect? To be able to play the full game before it is installed?

> Oh, and if I want online multiplayer, I usually have to download a 700MB patch

Oh, the horror. I am guessing that could take as long as 10 minutes!

Talk about your first world problems....

I can play my Xbox360 / PS3 games just fine without installing them. So a 'next-gen' console has a worse experience in that regard.

The excitement of a new toy is significantly reduced when you have to wait a couple of hours to patch it or install a game etc. I hate people that excuse mediocrity with "first world problems". Instead how about we look at ways of improving things.

Hah, with my copper line fast degrading, the 700MB patch could take quite a while.

"User experience" is often a first-world problem.

From the Xbox 360 to the Dreamcast to the PS2 to the PSX to the SNES to the NES to the Atari 2600, all the games required that I simply place the game into the console and the system would run the game. Now we have this odd kludge that used to be reserved only for PCs. The other features are certainly nice to have, but the PS4 bills itself as a gaming console first, and there is a degraded experience in that regard.

> used to be reserved only for PCs

Used to be something only PCs were capable of doing.

how!!? Now we finally can have games with large environments and high texture resolutions because we aren't limited to the capacity of our discs...

I'm definitely interested in picking up a PS3, now that the PS4 is out. Do you think it'll be cheaper to buy one during Black Friday or to get a used one after Christmas, when a lot of people are (presumably) going to be selling their PS3s because they got a PS4?

I would be surprised if a whole lot of people with PS4s sell their PS3s, as backwards compatibility is literally nill, with merely the possibility that you can stream games over the internet. However, they're cheap now, the game library is exceptional, and I love mine.

I also bought a PS3 late in the PS3 cycle. My point is that a lot of the games that came out on PS3 that I would have played, I didn't because at the time I didn't have one.

Plus Dark Souls 2 is only coming out for ps3/xbox360. I agree Deep Down looks particular awesome; Hopefully it's of Dark Souls caliber.

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