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> I strongly beg to differ. Have you seriously tried out Ceylon's IDE? Or are you just speculating?

He was probably just reading your own mailing list. Why speculate, if he can get the state of tooling right from the core developers? :-)

Heh, we'll have to post more commercials about how great we are, instead of always being so intensely self-critical ;-)

I would agree to that. Given the excellent IDE support that is provided from the first release on, you have some killer platform there, quality-wise.