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Why are there so many Romanians and Bulgarians in Germany? Seems a weird choice to make. I mean, Germany's a lovely place, but why a mass exodus to there? "It's Tuesday, let's move to Germany."

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We're the first rich country when they move to the east (from a Romania/Bulgaria POV) - and Germany is the last of Europe to have a reputation for being financially stable, providing social/healthcare coverage and not being overly racist.

France/Great Britain, in contrast, are not very favorable target countries: France has a strong nationalist/right-wing extremist political movement (Le Pen's Front National), and Great Britain, while rich, is not covered by Schengen agreement and excepted from a lot of EU regulations - so it's both difficult to get into, and stay in.

I didn't know this. Thanks for elaborating. I always enjoyed Germany, but I liked France too.

If you're interested in learning a bit more about this topic and want to learn about the lifes of those immigrants, read:

1) http://www.sueddeutsche.de/muenchen/arbeiterstrich-in-muench...

2) http://www.tz.de/muenchen/stadt/aufstand-geschaeftsleute-geg...

3) http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbeiterstrich

4) http://www.abendzeitung-muenchen.de/inhalt.im-hauptbahnhofvi...

5) http://www.focus.de/panorama/welt/tid-34337/armutszuwanderun...

These all deal with the situation in Munich, but it's the same in Berlin, Cologne, Dusseldorf, Hamburg and other German cities.

The same in Stockholm, a lot of beggars from Eastern European countries (mostly Romania and Bulgaria I think).

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