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Hmmm. $11,666 per month for 1.5 developers is roughly $100,000 per developer per year. You must be talking about junior developers, because salaries around here for experienced developers aren't that low. They can't be--not when senior/experienced developers can get $100,000 working just about anywhere else in the country for less than 50% of the cost of living as in the bay area.

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I was being generous, also I know in at least Arizona senior developers are not paid anything near 6 figures. About 50K at best.

Move.

1) He's wrong. My first job in Arizona I got paid more than that, 15 years ago. 2) It's so, so much cheaper to live in Phoenix than in one of the tech centers. And a different lifestyle. Some people want a big house and a boringly steady job.

I'm not wrong, look at jobs at the University of Arizona (Tucson) for experienced C/C++ programmers. $45K a year.

Universities are not going to pay as well as the private sector, or even many government or non-profit organizations, for the same work. Using that as an example doesn't help your argument.

I don't live in Arizona anymore, I live in the bay area.

Arizona salaries are lower than the Bay Area but not that low, at least in my experience (from living there 2007-2010). Mid-to-senior Java J2EE or .NET programming positions are offering $80K to $100K. There are lots of VB.NET or ASP.NET types of programming jobs for around $30/hour W2 contracting or $50-$60K full time, sometimes more.

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