Yale is not her parents, not her church, not the Connecticut Health Service, not the National Health Service. What does Yale owe her any more than all the rest of us owe her?
The idea is really about what she expected her school to be -- a welcoming community that will help her grow or something of that sort (she took the marketing flyers literally). Was she naive to believe that? A lot of young people make that mistake. Some from affluent small town communities have not had to deal with large bureaucracies before. This is their first go at it.
I loved my alma mater, but I also never for one second believed that anyone outside of the few professors I was close to and still keep in touch with, actually cared about me as a person.
The author's experience with mental health issues was a perfect shit storm of being cut down after taking their warm-fuzzy message hook-line-and-sinker, AND a broken health care system in general.
I would also argue there are no easy answers. It's not my place to suggest reforms, but if you're admitting someone to a psych ward and you know that at least one time they slashed their thigh open with a pocket knife, how can you possibly take their word for it that they aren't going to use the drawstring on their pants, or the plastic cover of a notebook to try self harm again? It's a no-win situation, and those are the worst.
The best case would probably be to abolish psych wards and give everyone one-on-one access to a counselor 24-7 so they can hang out and be 100% sure they're not in danger. But I'd also note the world has moved "forward" a lot in terms of stigmas and treatment of the mentally ill. Is their room to improve, hell yes. But to ignore the almost death-camp like environments of the homes for the feeble minded just a century ago, we're doing okay.
Making someone strip naked for a search is not fine. Giving an intimate search is also not fine. Threatening to restrain them to a bed is not fine. Keeping them in their room is not fine. Keeping them on a locked ward is not fine. Etc etc.
If her account is accurate I am shocked by how bad her treatment was. I've attended many a&e units with someone with severe deliberate self harm (much worse than described in the article) and that person got much better treatment. Not just medical clinical treatment, but the humane stuff too.
Swap mental illness for wheel chair use or deafness and you start to see why your position is so unreasonable.
If a person in a wheel chair had their legs bleeding out, would it be discrimination to send them to the hospital for treatment? Or just the right thing to do?
If anything, they were exactly the opposite of discriminatory, as post-treatment, they let her (now with the "mental history" label attached) back in, right?
Self harm is for some people a protective measure that prevents suicide. It's possible that a bit of supervision and temporary lighter workloads would have helped.
I have been careful use use weasle words - "if her account is accurate" etc - because it's possible that the only option was for them to remove her temporarily and their weird system needs her to reapply.
And I'm not sure if they get a pass on not discriminatory. Excluding people with current mental illness, but accepting people with a mental health problem in their history isn't really good enough in the 21st centuary. Again, I don't know what their policy is so I should not judge them, but what do they do with people who disclose hearing voices or psychotic episodes or bi-polar mania or eating disorder? (Anorexia is far more dangerous than self harm, even including the suicidal thinking).
I would agree with you, but I sympathize with the University as well. In our litigious society, Yale could easily be sued by the parents of the suicide victim. Worse, once a school starts "treating" a student for mental health issues they by default assume some responsibility for that person. If the OP did eventually jump from the roof of Vanderbilt hall, people would be asking, "why didn't they send her home?"
The university could have treated her with more compassion and respect, but their ultimate decision to remove her was probably their best course of action.
Fear of litigation has made it difficult for people or organizations to be generous; their first priority has to be CYA unless they want to risk financial ruin.
> Often, the physical barrier is the easiest to remove - the attitudinal barriers are much more difficult. To create a university community, which is truly accessible to and inclusive of all persons, including people with disabilities requires the participation of each and every member of the community. Toward this goal, the Office serves as a resource and a catalyst for change by providing technical assistance, information, and disability awareness training to any member of the Yale community.
You probably charge your employer $60k (+/- whatever) for rendering services; are you now obligated to help your boss (or CEO/whoever) through an episode of bipolar? Schizophrenia? I mean, they gave you $60k, right?
Have you looked at a catalog for Yale or any similar private school? They're not primarily selling education.
Besides, the "education" is no different from what you'd get at a much less expensive, much less well-known school. You're paying for the "community" and the experience and the brand.
Source: I paid for my own Yale degree.
Totally agreed.
But my point still stands; slightly refined:
providing a snobbish "education" != providing a safe place for people with psychiatric disorders.
I would not have used the term "snobbish", but, well, you went out of your way to mention your Ivy League degree, when it didn't fundamentally address my point that anyone paying for any college, regardless of cost/status, should be expecting to get psychiatric services along the way.
Congrats, you're special, thanks for letting us know. :-)
What constitutes community in your agreement? For many part of community giving support to those who are going through a rough time.
> paying for any college, regardless of cost/status, should be expecting to get psychiatric services along the way.
Universities often require health insurance if enrolled. Often it is required you buy it through the University. Universities roll many services into one package. It is not uncommon for University programs to target bettering both physical and mental health.
Psychiatric services are just one more Health benefit. Is there a reason to exclude it as part of the package? If it normally is excluded, what reasoning lead to this decision?
> Congrats, you're special, thanks for letting us know. :-)
What are you trying to communicate with here?
Right. AFAIK Yale has those, and is where the gal went. And they made the decision "this is too serious for us" and sent her to Yale-New Haven, which has a real psych ward.
I am sure Yale has counseling/Health Services for non-clinical depression/etc., but I don't think people appreciate the environment you need for patients with active, dangerous psychiatric illnesses (harmful thoughts/etc.) who are actively going through med changes, that may actually worsen their condition before the right balance is found.
No way Yale, or any college, is going to have those facilities. They sent her to specialists, which was the right thing to do.
Keeping her at Yale under the care of people who are not trained/equipped to help her, would have been worse.
E.g. Yale probably has nurses/doctors to apply bandages, prescribe basic meds, etc., but would you get cancer treatment there? They can't provide everything.
> What are you trying to communicate with here?
I was admittedly being sarcastic and trying to point out the guy was, IMO, bragging about his Yale degree, and talking about the "brand" he paid for, when it really didn't change my point that you don't pay any college, Ivy League or otherwise, expecting that they'll also help you through your serious psychiatric illness while you're there.
I'm not sure how it works in your reversed example of an employee supporting an employer. The decent thing to do is to support the reasonable adjustments, and to not be a dick when they return to work.
And, while they might require some time off, and maybe hospitalisation, they probably shouldn't lose their job amd have to reapply for it.
I'm sympathetic, I just don't see what place Yale has in this.
I don't even know what that is supposed to mean. I'm not institutionally a dick? Is that even a meaningful sentence?
In order to call Yale a dick, you'd first have to personify it, but that's a literary trick and not reality.
To cite another case, United Fruit enjoyed cheap land and labor in Guatemala. In the late 40's and early 50's, populist movements started springing up in the country until one day a land-reform minded president was democratically elected. Someone at UF called up some friends in the U.S. government who knew some folks, who organized an assassination of the president by the CIA.
United Fruit is not evil. A vast majority of the people who made up the corporation were probably blissfully ignorant of what the group they were members of were doing. And it's unreasonable and irrational to expect corporations of a certain size to have "all the facts." Instead, a small cabal of individuals colluded to implement a policy that devastated a small Central American democracy for the rest of the 20th century.
In the same way, Yale is amoral. It is not capable of making moral decisions the way individuals in leadership positions are. And American corporate law should reflect that. Instead we get bullshit like corporate campaign reform that allows individuals with an agenda to wield the power of the hundreds or thousands because there's a chance that the that individual's position will positively impact the corporate body.
It doesn't matter what the minor ignorant workers are doing. A ruthless dictator's fingers and toes aren't evil, but he is evil.
Of course it is. Just look what they did!
Corporations can live forever and suffer only mild losses for egregious ethical failures. They demand sacrifice (of time from the proles, and of ethical compromises from the powerful) that in theory benefits "the company" but actually is for the benefit of the highest officers (priests).
That's not a person. That's a (not necessarily benevolent) god.
Well, legally you often can, but it's a pretty shitty thing to do.