Comment by ronaldx | Hacker News Reader

Comment by ronaldx | Hacker News Reader

Wow.

There are a lot of negative comments that I find surprisingly imbalanced in how they view the employer-employee relationship.

Employers have the balance of power in almost any working relationship, and should take some responsibility in creating satisfactory employment conditions. Allowing bad management to mishandle employees is an abuse of that power. If a new employee doesn't choose to speak to HR, it's most likely because HR are doing a crap job of making new employees aware of what support they offer, if any.

Apple (the company) certainly wouldn't think for one second about breaching contracts where the benefit outweighed the risk of legal consequences. We might say "that's just business". So, why should you personally care about breaching contracts if turning up to work has such a strongly negative effect on your life?

I personally want to say to this guy: well done, you did the right thing for yourself. Find yourself better employment.

Sorry that this job didn't work out, and I'm sorry it was so bad that you felt you had to take a (small, temporary) hit to your reputation, but if you needed to get out of there so bad, it was worth it: best of luck for the future :)

There might not be so many negative comments if the author had done a better job of defining what was so bad.

What exactly was the producer saying? No examples given. Why didn't he even attempt to speak to HR? No reason given. What did his co-workers say about the situation? What was the catalyst for walking out on that particular day? ie. Why not take a day off to consider options?

I had to make a lot of assumptions to fill in the blanks.

From the information given, it sounds like he didn't like his producer and wasn't happy about the commute. Neither of which is remarkable.

He did ... insults, extreme micromanaging, etc.

Never cited explicit examples or quotes.

Yawn. Really that is the best you can offer?

He did. He cited examples of the boss micromanaging him and how that occurred. Where you there? How would extra juice detail validate his case? How would you know that he didn't make up the detail? Do you demand voice recordings?

Good job contradicting yourself.

I'm sure there's a subreddit out there somewhere where you'd fit in beautifully. Best of luck. :)

You care about a breach of contract because you're a professional. Honestly he probably wasn't in violation of any contracts in the first place.

No one is being negative because they think doing the right thing for yourself is wrong. It's a matter of common courtesy.

There are a lot of options when you have a crappy boss. The first of which is to actually talk to your boss yourself, and then go over his/her head if they don't respond. If you can't reconcile after that, then feel free to quit, but in my opinion you should do it to someone's face.

Contrary to popular belief, HR departments are not psychic. Just like in programming, they can't solve problems they don't know about.

Think of notifying HR like filing a bug report or support ticket for broken human behavior.

I will make the same point again but using your analogy:

A new employee must be given sufficient advice/training on how to file a bug report.

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