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Yep, lots of workplaces are like this. As you do care, get away from PHP ASAP.

Beware of structuring and refactoring too much, or writing low-ROI tests. You must find balance.

While I dislike programming in PHP (the syntax is ugly mostly), and I like Python and JS, I don't think getting away from PHP is a solution and the solution. PHP is not the problem in this situation. It's the people who is working there with OP.

I like to think that's what lalc was implying. With a language comes community, and PHP's community is unfortunately laden with baggage.

Okay. That's a fair point. Maybe it is right that people have to leave their territory once and feel the difference in another community.

This is what a lot of it is about, balance. When we write open source software, we don't usually have costs, time isn't a factor, we aren't being rushed by a long todo list, so we can invest in the code. In business, we don't always have this luxury.

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