Ballistic Recovery Systems
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When they first came out, there was some reports that they they caused just as much loss of life as they prevented, but I think the stats are now in favor of them. They're not really meant to protect the plane but the pilot and passengers.
As far as a rule of thumb I think my instructor said that once something goes wrong in flight, it's the insurance company's plane, so just try like hell to survive and forget about aircraft damage. There have also been many incidents where the chute was used, and the plane eventually flew again.
Fascinating tool though, and if I purchased a plane, I wouldn't mind having one for those "just in case" times. Of course, aircraft with this installed are generally over $200,000 new, so it's not on my radar anytime soon.
Light multi-engine aircraft were born for those situations but, ironically, they're not much better than single engine aircraft for survivability. There's a saying that a twin just gets you to the scene of the accident faster.
So, yeah, it's not a panacea, but improving the odds of living through the other 44% of flight accidents is still a good thing.
Not trying to put words in your mouth but interestingly, this comment highlights one of the hazards of this system. It can give people the confidence to do things they should absolutely avoid doing and KNOW they should avoid doing. Things like a new and more effective wing deicer sometimes have a similar effect.
If the capabilities of the airframe and the pilots skill are sufficient for the conditions, like if your plane is certified for flight into known icing conditions and you have experience doing so, then it's not a huge risk to fly into these situations.
But if your plane has pneumatic deicing boots that require engine power and your engine quits, you may be in over your head in a hurry if ice starts building up while you're trying to perform an emergency landing.
In that situation it would be nice to be able to just pop the chute.
But it's not a binary condition such that you can make a really clear distinction like that, right? That seems like the big risk to me. If it were as easy as "those are icing conditions but we have to equipment to deal with icing conditions," okay, no problem.
I expect the risk assessment process involves more variables and is more along the lines of: "sure, that weather system is more dangerous than we'd ordinarily fly into but we've got a better deicer this time, we're in a hurry, we're experienced pilots so... let's do it." (admittedly, I have no idea how specifically a weather system's risk and a deicer's performance can be quantified beforehand... maybe it's a piece of cake)
This is a popular criticism of the system for which supporting evidence is never provided. I'm not saying it doesn't have this effect, but I see no reason to assume it does, any more than having seatbelts in a car makes you a more reckless driver.
You'd have to have read all the criticism of the system to be able to make this claim.
The Cirrus SR22 is worthy of study if you're actually interested in this. For a while at least, it had a somewhat poor safety record in spite of being in quantifiable terms an amazingly safe plane. I'm pretty sure human behavior is involved.
Anyway, here's a place you could start, although I can't vouch for the quality of an article I haven't read: http://www.avweb.com/blogs/insider/AVWebInsider_CirrusSafety...
Fair enough: This is a popular criticism of the system for which I've never seen any supporting evidence provided, including in this thread. Hunches and suspicions don't qualify.
Seriously. Insert content here. I see from your other comments that you've got one of these, so seriously, you must have some actual thoughts on this.
It's always good to have more options available, but you shouldn't necessarily base your decision making on them. If the risks were too great for such a flight without a BRS, they really should be considered too great with it.
It's kind of a catch-22; people are afraid of flying because of safety issues, but you need scale to spread the costs of making planes safer.
*edit: corrected typo
Which is to say: GA is painfully expensive (how many people are going to start a hobby that costs $150/hour?) hard to find (how far away is your nearest local airport that offers basic flight training?) useless (how many people are going to get to the point where they can travel for business or vacation using their own airplane?) and not something people care about too much anyway (flying is seen as boring).
I'm not aware of many people who want to get into GA but don't because they're scared of it. I have seen a lot of people leave or simply never pursue it because of the rest, though.
However, like all emergency devices, they are not a panacea. They don't protect against one of the most common fatal GA accident scenarios: loss of control at low altitude (base/final turn when landing). In that case, there is not enough time for the parachute to inflate before the airplane hits the ground.
I'm all in favor of BRS being available as options and after-market STCs on all small airplanes, but we also need to make sure emergency training isn't reduced to just "pull the chute", since there's a lot that can still go wrong outside of the chute's operational parameters.
Should they be targeting the poor ones with their "very expensive" aircraft?
> low time pilots
Can you provide ANY evidence that Cirrus targets "low time pilots?" Of course, the customer's insurance company has some say in this, too.
> There is an argument to be made that this feature has created overconfident pilots ...
Sure, but, again, where's your evidence?
> it probably doesn't help that they used the chute as an excuse to skip proper spin testing of the aircraft.
??? The SR20 was spun 60 times, with 60 recoveries, as part of European certification: https://www.cirruspilots.org/copa/safety_programs/m/copa_saf...!
If you look at the accidents, there are quite a few head-scratchers (pilot gets lost and deploys BRS, or pilot gets disoriented in IMC and deploys BRS). It's not just one or two, but quite a lot like this. The Cirrus seems to be the new doctor killer.
http://www.wbir.com/story/news/2014/02/03/fire-chief-no-surv...
make me think we need a ballistic recovery system.
In the above video, a pilots propeller hits another aircraft's glider towline which then wraps itself around the prop and engine disabling it.
I'm not a pilot, but this probably would have been fatal if it wasnt for the BRS.