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She currently is paying off a student loan from her 2 years at UCF. She is putting a as much hours she can into learning, but working two jobs to make ends meet means a lot less time to get some serious time in. That is not stopping her, though, she is somehow finding time to program, sew and bake (her big 3).

I definitely do not want to come off as begging. I am offering design services to secure some money for her tuition, and she is sewing some things to sell on Etsy to raise money as well. Donations are for those with hearts of gold.

She has heard some good things about The Flatiron School. It's actually closer to a full-time job, rather than just a class.

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It's actually closer to a full-time job, except instead of them paying you you pay them $12,000. Makes no sense. Is that what they tell you to get your money? Wait, this really doesn't add up, she's a programmer but she's working 2 jobs to make ends meet?

I laid out a self-study plan above that worked great for me, it's all common sense and its mostly free. Now if she's not skilled enough to put the pieces together with the resources I mentioned then I'm very skeptical that working super duper hard for a few months (even with great mentors) would get her up to speed. That's not how learning software development works. Your brain is not built that way. LOL "hacker schools"

It's closer to a full-time job in terms of the time spent, obviously not in a financial sense.

I think if you actually read what I linked, you would understand the situation a little more.

I think the point is that if she's already willing/able to dedicate herself to 12 weeks of unpaid time, and she's motivated, then that should be enough to teach herself off the internet. What these critics here don't get is that some very smart and talented people don't learn this way, or aren't confident enough that they could commit themselves to 3 months of unpaid, self-guided learning.

Naturally, as with all things HN, there is an insinuation that anyone who is incapable of doing things the way an intellectually-advanced-but-socially-deficient 17 y/o boy would, must not be intelligent.

>Naturally, as with all things HN, there is an insinuation that anyone who is incapable of doing things the way an intellectually-advanced-but-socially-deficient 17 y/o boy would, must not be intelligent.

No, that's not true at all. The resources are out there and he's already said she's got a passion and talent for programming. You can take an iOS class from Stanford for free on iTunes U from a brilliant teacher who used to be a VP at NextStep for gods sake. Or you can pay $12k to some "hacker school" bros.

Please post link for Stanford iOS course? Thanks! (I'll save the 12k I think..)

Seriously? Try typing "standford ios course" into google.

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