Comment by adrianm | Hacker News Reader

Comment by adrianm | Hacker News Reader

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You claim to disagree with my premise, but you did not address the premise of my statement.

I did not say it was unreasonable to "gain a sense of the uniquely different cultural attitudes and priorities that are prevalent in a society".

Based on your analysis, I think you have misinterpreted both the intent and premise of my comment.

What I actually said was precisely what I did say: that you should not be quick to publicly espouse these generalizations that you have anecdotally observed. To a general audience of people who do not know you, the words that you write on here are the only basis we have on which to understand you as a person, short of getting to know you personally.

Perhaps you have never been on the receiving end of a racial stereotype or generalization, even an "innocent" one. Even if the comments are not made with malicious intent, and believe me I know the OP had absolutely no malicious intent at all, stereotypes can and do make some people uncomfortable to hear.

Why is that? Well, there are lots of reasons. If for nothing else, it makes the member of the group in question the "Other". If only for a brief moment in time the individual ceases to exist; their racial characteristics are being now being discussed, rationalized, and analyzed by the others in the room.

I really just wanted to give my honest advice to a nice guy (the OP), that it would be wise to avoid allowing this sort of discussion be associated with him as a person, unintentionally immortalized by the internet.

I understand your suggestion and your point is well meaning, but you are saying no one should ever write downfor others to read, their own experiences or impressions, of things they have seen. In your original comment and this reply you repeatedly use the word "race" or "racial" but the article is about a culture and the comment you are so against is someone commenting on their experience living in that culture. would you have all stories about a particular place be written only by its inhabitants? i think you would find there are precious few, because we do not and cannot see the culturally unique attitudes and behaviors that so differeniate where we are raised from all other places, precisely because everything seems just so mundane and normal with no frame of outside reference.

If we all shy away from discussing the interesting and unique different perspectives of different cultural and social norms and objectives, we lose the opportunity to be inspired by one another.

I really dont care if someone later in the future discovers that i said i had an impression of something i saw in a society, and i dont think people need to be shielded from hearing what outsiders think of their society.

As for your suggestion that i have probably not been on the receiving end of such observations, as a non-japanese living in a country that has almost no foreigners percentage-wise, yes, i am aware of what it is like to be on the receiving end of blanket generalizations about "americans" "foreigners" "californians" and other groups, usually by people who have never travelled more than a few km by train from their home town. That kind of empty and idiotic thinking has nothing whatsoever to do with someone simply describing what they have seen with their own personal experience in a foreign land.

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