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I use a 39" 4k Seiki, and I've been very happy with it too. Paid $420 about a month ago (it's $500 from Amazon right now), and it's a pretty amazing amount of real estate without a bezel. 30hz is a little annoying for some tasks, but for coding and other static applications, it really doesn't bother me.

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If you flash the 39" with the 50" firmware you get true 120Hz at 1080p. It also changes the scaling to a simple 1 pixel to 4.

Anybody considering the Seiki should know that it uses an unusual pixel format, BGR. So to get subpixel rendering to work be sure to run the subpixel setup program if you use windows or configure fontconfig if you use linux.

I've recently done the same. Still trying to get my work environment set up decently. We need some sort of user group for people doing 4k programming to exchange ideas, tools, methods, etc.

Seems like a good idea:

http://www.reddit.com/r/4kmonitors/

What do you mean "without a bezel," do you just take it off?

He means without the several sets of bezels you'd normally have from the normal way of getting this much screen area, i.e., by having several monitors.

How does one handle window placement in a single monitor setup like that? I quite often use Windows' fill right, fill left, maximize, fill height options for window arrangement.

I use a 39" Seiki with my MacBook, and managing windows is a relatively minor but real annoyance. I just drag and resize manually, and usually end up with overlapping windows of different sizes all over the place. I still love the display and would never go back, but it feels like I'm not using it quite as effectively as I could.

I suspect this is a gap that will be filled pretty quickly once these monitors become more common.

Have you tried BetterSnapTool? It's one of the most useful apps I use. https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/bettersnaptool/id417375580?m...

And on Windows running both AllSnap and AllSnap64 help me a great deal, even though I'm still on smaller monitors.

Check out divvy: https://mizage.com/divvy/

For Mac OS X, check out Moom (on the Mac App Store). It lets you arrange windows in various nice ways via clicks or keystrokes.

I second the recommendation of Moom; its grid layout can go beyond the 2x2 that most other tools support and its window snapshot restoration is great for laptops.

I use SizeUp for Mac. It lets you resize windows and move them between monitors/spaces

Presumably using a tiling window manager would solve that problem entirely. The window management in Windows/OS X is positively archaic compared to what you can get in Linux these days.

http://winsplit-revolution.com/ is a good option.

Haven't tried others because this has been simple to setup and has easy shortcuts that use cntrl+alt+keypad to move window into various spots.

Thanks, I'll check it out.

(15 minutes later)

Okay, this is great. It just works. Thanks for the recommendation.

I like divvy: https://mizage.com/divvy/

When I got my Seiki I basically tried all of the different Mac Window managers, most of them were immediately out of the running as they couldn't support a large enough grid to make sense (2x2 was the standard). With Divvy I could set up a 6x6 grid which is perfect as you can easily set global shortcuts to treat it as either a 3x3 grid or a 2x3 grid with your keyboard shortcuts on the Command and Numpad (see image) http://imgur.com/3E474eP This is awesome as you don't have to really 'remember' a bunch of shortcuts as the keyboard grids look just like what your screen grids are.

Possibly with this, https://github.com/ianyh/Amethyst

> Tiling window manager for OS X similar to xmonad

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