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Nice work! I've been looking for a proper Mac notes app with iOS syncing since before iOS was called iOS.

So I have a list of criteria. Not a long list (in fact length of feature list is a negative indicator -- I'm looking for something simple but of course it has to be the kind of simple I'm looking for. :)

Versioning is awesome, and something I considered most-desired but least-likely to find. I also like that you chose iCloud over a custom sync service, for a lot of reasons.

Do you have any interest in using strong encryption for data at rest?

Two notes regarding marketing: "yet another X" is an in-joke among UNIX people, so it works here, but might not fly in a wider audience. Also, posting on a Saturday at 3am US/Pacific might be self-limiting..!

Nice work and good luck with it!

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@quesera I am glad you like it :) For encryption you mentioned, do you have any suggestions?

One more note-taking app. http://www.voogla.com

Works in in cloud from any device. Real-time, no sync.

From the voogla site:

"We solved sync problems. Your data is stored in cloud and anybody in your team can access it in real-time from any device thanks to responsive design."

The first part is one hell of a claim (one I'm quite skeptical of), and the second part is downright bizarre. I'm not sure they know what "responsive design" means.

In fact, most of the copy is poorly written. Not a good first impression.

You are right, copy needs more love. The best way is to try it. If data is stored in database at server, than there is no sync between devices, right? If you access it on the phone and from desktop, you always get latest data?

I'm sorry, but the copy needs more than "love". It seems like you're misrepresenting what the product actually is, and frankly, I'm not going to try it.

You say it's a note-taking app. The site seems to make it out to be about "canned responses for teams" (still not really sure what that means), and while it says a few things about note taking, it really just isn't clear what the app actually does. Are notes... messages? Is this a replacement for email or a replacement for Notes?

Beyond that - "If data is stored in database at server, than there is no sync between devices, right?" - sounds like Voogla only works online, then. Sync issues are unavoidable when you bring in offline mode, and for a note-taking app to be useful, you pretty much need offline mode. So please don't be surprised that I find it really hard to believe that you've "solved sync problems".

I'm not going to trust my personal data to an app that is marketed like this. It's either deliberately misrepresented, or the authors of both the copy & the app have a poor understanding of the technical challenges they claim to be solving. Either way, not interested.

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