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I see you've removed all agency from the 'other groups'. Kudos.

Maybe, but I've just seen a whole reservation take a vote on a name and be ignored by the NCAA. If you can honestly tell me that this came from the tribes and was voted on by their people, I'll believe it is an actual movement. Otherwise, its just more of the loud offended that don't really give a damn about.

Um, it did come from a Native American group. Not that your opinion on whether or not something is an "actual movement" matters to anyone but yourself...

You didn't actually read the document with the named-non-group plaintiffs.

The plaintiffs are individual persons because of the standing issues related to disparagement claims), and ones just past the age of legal adulthood specifically to negate the laches defense raised in the immediately previous case on the same issue (the Harjo case, whose procedural history is discussed at length in the decision, and whose trial record was adopted wholesale in this case by mutual consent of the parties, because the substantive issues in this case are a subset of those in the Harjo case.

So, while its nice that you read the named plaintiffs, it would probably help if you read the document beyond the names of the parties to get a clear understanding of what is actually going on.

I'm pretty well aware of what's going on, hard not to be where I'm standing. I didn't see the support I would want to see, but I wouldn't expect it given earlier actions.

You might want to look at this brief (and, in particular, see who the amici offering it are) in support of the plaintiffs' position in the preceding case raising the same issues (the present case is a rehash of that case, organized by the same group, with younger named plaintiffs to avoid the laches defense that ended up being a problem for the earlier case):

http://www.ncai.org/attachments/LegalBriefing_TByaxkdqYwYRDo...

Note that the first two listed are:

Amicus National Congress of American Indians ("NCAI") was established in 1944 and is the oldest and largest national intertribal organization; it represents over 250 tribes, nations, pueblos, and Alaska Native villages with a combined enrollment of over 1.2 million.

Amici Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma, Comanche Nation of Oklahoma, Oneida Indian Tribe of Wisconsin, and Seminole Nation of Oklahoma are federally recognized Indian tribes that have adopted resolutions condemning the use of Indian names and mascots by sports teams.

No, the pearl-clutchers have pretty much got that covered.

Interesting that you characterize basic human decency as an overreaction.

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