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> 90% of our checkin users have moved over to Swarm and continue to check in.

That's an incredibly high number, so I'm guessing it doesn't mean "all users ever", but rather "all users who check in at least once a day"?

Consider that the 10% must also include Windows Phone users (as there is no Swarm app in WP).

'checkin users' probably means something like "active daily users on platforms where we have released swarm" and 'moved over to Swarm' means something like "has at least 1 checkin using Swarm". This is what I like to call "counting for marketing professionals".

> Furthermore, we still have tons of check-in data - 90% of our checkin users have moved over to Swarm and continue to check in.

Isn't that because Foursquare auto-updated to Swarm? Or something? I don't even remember how I got that app on my phone, and I opened it maybe twice. Check-ins (or something) appear to be fully automatic, there's no need to even open the app, and the only reason I haven't deleted it yet is because I'm too lazy. I'm dead serious here. I loved Foursquare and used it over Yelp (making my friend Yelp Community Manager unhappy), but now I find it completely worthless.

EDIT:

[0] made me finally remove Swarm. I don't need an app I don't use eat my power while I still haven't bought that powerbank to be able to play Ingress longer.

[0] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8143970

> 90% of our checkin users have moved over to Swarm and continue to check in

You/Foursquare really should clarify exactly what you mean by this - we keep hearing how "successful" Swarm is but it seems most [former] users (including me) and their friends (including mine) stopped using it when (or shortly after) the switch happened.

Right now Foursquare sounds like Google in the early days of Google+ where they were touting how much people were posting but everybody was saying they never saw any activity in their stream.

There is some sort of automated checking in going on; I haven't checked in even once in Swarm, and I've been asked by my friends if I'm a fan of this change because apparently, I've been checking in all over the city.

Your location/neighborhood is being updated automatically in the background, but you are not automatically checked into venues.

Considering how popular it is to inflate ego metrics, safe to assume 90% means 90% of people who use the app everyday, or something incredibly obtuse.

Not even Candy Crush can say 90% of users download a new game, etc. Let alone Foursquare. yawns

Are you sure about the 90%? I've been a hardcore user and I don't use it since Swarm. And most of my friends don't use it anymore. People will slowly get out of it, tips will be ages old and somethings else will take over the place. I'm just sad that I put so much energy to get new places onto the map and write tips and you just make them fade away...

The 90% is likely users downloading it since they were basically forced to with the split, started it up once and quit using it.

The 2 star reviews on the Appstore show retention is likely horrible with the new app.

> Furthermore, we still have tons of check-in data - 90% of our checkin users have moved over to Swarm

The 90% of users who were basically forced to switch to it have given your app an overwhelmingly negative 2 star rating.

They may have downloaded it since they don't have much of a choice but its clear the vast majority of your users hate it.

> 90% of our checkin users have moved over to Swarm Really? I find that extremely hard to believe that 90% of users would download a second app. That would be a super huge success if true. Or how do you define 'checkin user'? Someone who checks in every day? At least once a week? etc

That's a good number, how do you define a "checkin user"?

but I HATE that once in swarm, you bounce me back to Foursquare to see what's good here, after not allowing me to check in in Foursquare. It's so maddening.

The thing is, in practice bouncing directly to that view in another app is about the same as bouncing to a separate view in the same app. Try it with the new Foursquare + Swarm. I was just as skeptical at first, but it really does work pretty well. Honestly here's the old flow:

1. Hit check in 2. Pick venue 3. Type text, pick people you're with, etc 4. Hit confirm 5. Tap through insights 6. Tap to venue page

Now here's the new flow:

1. Hit check in from Foursquare's Here tab 2. Venue's selected, just tap your text, pick friends/sticker 3. Hit Check in 4. Swipe through insights, click "View in Foursquare"

It's honestly fewer steps when you think about it, thanks to the fact that the checkin flow is much faster + we know where you are with better confidence.

ok... but why do always get bounced to Swarm to checkin if i start in FS?