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> That sort of order is out of scope of anything a US court can order

How do you know that? Secret court orders are secret. "National security" trumps everything these days.

LavaBit chose to shut down rather to insert a backdoor that was forced on them. I doubt Apple will shut down over that.

And thanks to Snowden we know Apple's products have been backdoored already.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/catalog-reveals-ns...

http://www.infoworld.com/article/2609310/hacking/apple--cisc...

They don't need to create a special backdoor for the government, Apple has it's own backdoor that it can share with the government if needed... (they have full control of your device already when you are online)

But the laws that makes them legal are not secret.

The laws? I'm pretty sure mass surveillance is unconstitutional, that didn't stop them.

Are you saying it's outside of scope for NSA to forcefully install a backdoor or request encryption keys?

How do you explain LavaBit?

How do explain NSA's hardware in data centers?

How do you explain NSA's hardware in cell phone providers centers?

How do you explain NSA's backdoors in Microsoft's products?

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