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Not a bad price until you see it costs $300 to go from 4GB RAM to 16GB RAM.

Do these have user-upgradeable RAM? I can buy RAM a lot cheaper than that.

It looks like the physical design is the same as the late 2012, which on mine has a screw top "bottom" (until moments ago I had it upside down...always thinking that screen top was the top) that reveals a couple of so-dimm ports.

I am extremely surprised they didn't go Broadwell given that Intel is just starting to put those out in volume.

Exactly, Broadwell would also allow passive or almost silent operation. The new NUCs in Q1/15 look more promising than this.

I have a fanless Haswell NUC from Logic Supply[0] that I use for a MythTV frontend that I really love. Boots super fast off the 32G SSD, and the HD-4400 GPU (with VAAPI) handles with aplomb every kind of video I've thrown at it.

[0]: http://www.logicsupply.com/computers/processor/intel-core/co...

Maybe I am misremembering, but didn't Intel yank some of the early broadwell models due to the TSX thing?

These guys say it actually looks like soldiered-on RAM, as well as 'tamper-resistant' screws. Bastards.

Yes. Tech specs do not say "onboard memory." http://www.apple.com/mac-mini/specs/

Just kidding. Even if Apple doesn't say "onboard memory," that doesn't mean the computer does not have onboard memory.

http://blog.macminicolo.net/post/100240431773/a-look-at-the-...

I just chatted with Apple Store staff. The RAM is NOT user-upgradeable.

"With the new type of ram, this is so small that we need to solder it to the logic board. So it is not user replaceable any longer. We can only offer upgrade at the point of purchase"

The PICe SSD storage is also soldiered onto the machine.

This page makes it a bit unclear: http://store.apple.com/us/buy-mac/mac-mini

4GB of 1600MHz LPDDR3 memory

Configurable to 8GB or 16GB, only at the Apple Online Store.

That means that you can't go to a physical Apple Store and buy one with more than 4GB of RAM, not that you can't personally install more RAM.

Seems that new generation of apple's hardware comes with RAM welded, being un-upgradable after "bought".

Yep. $152

http://www.amazon.com/Patriot-Series-204-Pin-SO-DIMM-PSA316G...

I just asked support and they say it is not user upgradeable, and to add RAM at purchase time if you'll need it.

All previous Minis had user-upgradeable HDD too. I use a Mac mini with 16gb RAM and an SSD I've put in myself.

I've also upgraded RAM a mini purchased originally to do iOS app development. Getting the case off was a bit dicey, but otherwise it is pretty straightforward. Guides are on Youtube.

You can upgrade the RAM.

No you can't. This generation has ram soldered on so no more user-upgradeable ram :-(

Really? This is terrible, did not know that.

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