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I'm trying to think of real world applications for the semantic web, in 2014, which do not require a browser. Struggling.

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I just mean that there's not necessarily a need for any Semantic Web tech in the browser specifically. An application may certainly have a browser interface, but, to my mind, most of the "stuff" that involves working with RDF, OWL, SPARQL, etc. is server-side / behind-the-scenes stuff that the user wouldn't touch directly. The various browser plugins that let you look at embedded RDFa, microformats, etc. are nifty, but I don't personally consider that kind of stuff a primary use-case for semweb tech.

My problem with that is: Most modern web-apps run much (up to completely) in the browser. And the Semantic Web Stack is very heavy if you want to use it client-side. Here every kilobyte counts.

Well, you could directly query a SPARQL database, but thats the one scenario where a server still makes sense, to provide some decoupling from the database model and the client.

My problem with that is: Most modern web-apps run much (up to completely) in the browser.

"Use the right tool for the job". :-) There's no particular reason a "modern web-app" has to run completely in the browser... it still makes perfect sense to put heavyweight process intensive stuff, persistence, business logic, etc. on the server-side. If I'm building an app that uses a lot of "semantic stuff", most of that stuff is, indeed, happening on the server side.

Well, there are reasons and it's getting more common. In fact most modern browsers, even on a smartphone, may have more computing power than a server if you consider that the client has only to serve itself and the good performance of modern JavaScript engines. And having to do a lot of networking with a server slows a lot too, since network is one of the slowest and unreliable parts of an app.

So your answer sounds more like an excuse than a solution to me, sorry.

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