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Comment by drawkbox | Hacker News Reader

Those developers still using Drupal must really not be having fun. Drupal is an EOL still sticking around from back in the day of monolithic php cms frameworks that were broken at the core (Joomla, PHPNuke, etc). They make developers lives worse and lead to very little in solid products. It was good for a time, that time has passed and there are better ways.

Keep this in mind when you pick up new monolithic/take-over frameworks, they bloat and die, microframeworks are the way to go. I am sad for developers lost in Drupal dead zones. Drupal man walking!

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Have fun trying to get your microframework to satisfy the requirements of massive governmental organizations(http://australia.gov.au/misc/drupal.js) , universities (http://www.harvard.edu/misc/drupal.js), and gigantic media sites (http://www.nbc.com/misc/drupal.js).

I think you haven't a clue as to what drupal's capabilities are if you've got it even in the same ballpark as Joomla and PHPNuke.

The parent's claim was that Drupal is monolithic, bloated, and behind the times -- not that it was lacking in functionality.

If anything, linking to massive governmental organizations and universities (both famous for their bureaucracy and resistance to change) that use Drupal would seem to support his claim.

Drupal 8 aims to cut down on the NIH syndrome by using high-quality Symfony 2 components instead of in house libraries.

I've been waiting to see a Drupal 8 RC for years...

Right, because there are never security vulnerabilities in custom CMS projects developed on frameworks.

Look at it this way--this Drupal vulnerability was caught because one company using Drupal invested in a code audit. Now everyone using Drupal can benefit from that audit, because the vulnerability was disclosed and patched by the community.

Now let's say you develop a CMS-like project on a microframework. Are you going to pay an outside company for a thorough code audit of the project? Is anyone else?

What microframeworks do you suggest?

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